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Discussion in 'Leaders of World War 2' started by ray243, Sep 13, 2004.

  1. corpcasselbury

    corpcasselbury New Member

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    Locking up Donitz never made sense to me. He didn't do anything that any of the Allied submarine C-IN-C's didn't do.
     
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    I think one of the resaons why he was prisoned is because he helped plan and execute an unlegitimate and unlegal attack against neutral countries(Danmark, Norway.....)
     
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    And because he was to be the next Führer. Being Hitler's favorite won't make you look very clean, I'd say.
     
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    Anyone that believes that is 100% racist.

    Ever heard of the Holocaust? Read my sig, the 12 million + murdered would disagree with you that Nuremberg was revenge.

    Rommel I think would have probably gotten probation, but I don't think they would have done anything to him.

    Remember he was caught in the plot to kill Hitler, and had they not forced him to kill himself he would have been liberated from a Death Camp looking like a skeleton, and treated as an enemy of Hitler (Which he was).
     
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    Doenitz succeeded Hitler after he killed himself, the allies were just holding him accountable for the week he was in charge.
     
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    Welcome to the forum 2ndLegion.

    The very reason why the Germans forced Rommel to commit suicide was the fact that he was so popular that Hitler couldn't afford to lock him away or to have him officially shot. They gave him this 'choice', which came down to "kill yourself or be removed from the world". My point is that he would never be found in any death camp; he'd be dead.
     
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    Thanks for the welcome Roel.

    I agree that when Rommels part in the plot to kill Hitler was revealed to Hitler there was no chance of him surviving.

    However theoretically they could have just kept the sending of Rommel to a death camp or his murder a secret.

    They did as should be noted claim Rommel died of his wounds from being hit by allied air power.
     
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    Rommel was never actually a part of the plot to kill Hitler. He was implicated when one of the actual plotters, in a hospital with wounds, muttered his name over and over. That was all Hitler and his toadies needed to convict the "Desert Fox".

    On a side note, Rommel was wearing his Afrika Korps uniform when they came to fetch him on that fatal day.
     
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    If Rommel had survived the war,I don't think anything would have been done to him.I believe many Allied commanders would have run some type of interfearance,simply out of professional respect..To this day he's never been portrayed in a bad light.Correct me if I am wrong,but I believe Hitler ordered Rommel to execute POW's in Africa.Also,didn't Hitler order Rommel to basically throw away the lives of his troops by having them fight to the death instead of tactically retreating?Rommel ignored orders such as these.Had he survived and gone on trial,surely actions such as these would have spoken volumes for the man.
     
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    Hold on a second here. Stalin murdered more of his own people then the Germans did, yet in the Western world we were taught that Stalin was a hero. It was only under my own research and travels that I discovered he was a murderous DICTATOR of the nth degree.

    For the most part the Nuremburg war crimes trials were revenge, but they were more than simple. I can back this assertion with a simple question "how many Jewish industrial leaders that helped build the Axis war machine stood trial?" If you do know of at least one, say the one in charge of the German airforce aircraft production, please let me know so I can expand my knowledge base.

    Rommel a hero to the Allies, no I don't think so. After all he was a card carrying Nazi member and was ok with the war until he understood Germany could no longer reach her condiitions for victory.

    However his legendary exploits with the allied soldiers was true.
     
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    Ah, there we go Mutant Poodle... The corporations did it eh. :roll:

    Well, I think after the death of Stalin in 1954 we've heard quite a bit about his evil, even from the Soviet Union itself and later from Russia. I never thought of him as a hero for one, and was never taught that he was; he repressed the peoples of the United Soviet States ferociously (see the Baltic states, Hungary, Czechoslovakia etc), and killed millions of his own people.
     
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    While I agree that the Nazis themselves deserved nothing less than they got, not all those on trial deserved it.
    Ever heard of Otto Skorzeny?
    Basically he lead a 'Commando' brigade. Among other things they rescued Mussolini from the Allies, staged a coup in Hungary to keep the Hungarians firmly on the Axis side, and caused a fair bit of confusion during the Ardennes offensive with only 12 men in jeeps dressed up in American uniforms.

    He was tried at Nuremburg, and would probably have recieved the death sentance (among other crimes, for wearing enemy uniform when going into battle - made worse by the allegation that he had gained the uniforms by plundering Red Cross parcels for American prisoners). What then happened was that various Allied commando-types rlled up, testified that there was nothing Skorzeney had done that they had not, and that if Skorzeney was tried & shot, so should they be.

    The case fell through.

    Did he deserve it? He certainly prolonged the war (Hungary), but was simply a soldier, not a Nazi.
     
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    Skorzeny certainly was a Nazi; he was an SS officer, not Wehrmacht.
     
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    He was an SS officer because Himm;er wanted him to be.
    That is not an offer you refused.
     
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    True enough, but he was without a doubt an admirer of Hitler.

    I should like to know your source for the information that Skorzeny was not a Nazi.
     
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    Hi Corp - Chamberlain was an admirer of Hitler, as was Lindenberg...
    Neither of them were Nazis.

    Sadly, my source for his political status is his autobiography, written in partnership with Skorzeney, so frankly one cannot state that it is unbiased! :wink:

    However, if he had been a die-hard Nazi, would he have survived Nuremburg?
     
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    Why not?

    Being a nazi was not necessariliy meant that you would be punished.
    It's amazing how many nazis made a big carreer in post war Germany, especially as managers, judges, even politicians.
     
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    Don't forget the states, South America and Canada and other nations.

    Mind you though, life goes on, and people had to survive today to get to tomorrow.
     
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    Or you could simply live on in hiding. Like Joachim Peiper, he lived in a small village in France for decades after the war. He was killed though, in time... Or like Eichmann, the classic example.
     
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    Skorzeny, IIRC, fled to Spain after the war; that's how he survived Nuremburg.
     

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