which would you rather have?

Traffic cameras do not work and are a bane on the UK policing.

As a result of the increase in cameras all the police forces are reducing the ammout of police directly policing the roads, trafic police or trafpol like the US Highway Patrols.

Cameras are only as good as the data that is fed into them, put on a false registration plate and the camera is worthless.

FNG

 

No it doesn't, as FNG has said false plates render the cameras useless. If the vehicle is registered to a false address or unregistered then the cameras are no use at all, additionally if (As many vehicles in London are) the vehicle has foreign plates they're no good either. Similarly they do very very little or nothing to prevent people driving dangerously, under-taking, drunk or drug driving, driving without insurance or driving without a licence or whilst disqualified.

Additionally if you know your route well enough it is perfectly possible to speed (Except for the 30 or so meters beyond the cameras, but then once you've gone past that you just accelerate again) or run red lights past those that you know don't have cameras.

All of these need actual police to deal with (Which cost money and are effective) rather than cameras (Which make money but only catch the unwary) in order to make the roads a safer place.

 

I don't know if this is true for Britain as well, but in the Netherlands, certain commercial radio channels have their listeners call in if they see a working traffic camera, and they list the ones they know of every half hour. Anyone listening to one such channel knows exactly where to slow down to avoid a ticket.

 

As a guy who lived under the totalitarian form of goverment i don't hesitate to say freedom.
Every totalitarian regime starts with security against foreign enemy (real or percived) and than "progresses" to all enemies ( foreign and domestic)- On domestic it starts with spies for foreign power, then sympathisers for nasty foreigners and then with all that say something ruling class doesn't like. And once system is in place you can't simply get rid of it on next elections (if there are any)one realy has to start revolution, insurgency whatever. Every next party (if elections exsist) will be reluctant to dismantle the system as when the will be in power they will benefit from it.

And a good quote:
"The imperatives of the population explosion, which almost inevitably will lessen our belief in the sanctity of the individual human life, combined with the awesome power of the CIA and the defense establishment, seem destined to seal the fate of the America I knew as a child and bring us into a new Orwellian world where the citizen exists for the state and where raw power justifies any and every immoral act. I've always had a kind of knee-jerk trust in my Government's basic integrity, whatever political blunders it may make. But I've come to realize that in Washington, deceiving and manipulating the public are viewed by some as the natural prerogatives of office.

Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security."

by Jim Garrison in interview for Playboy (vol. 14 no. 10 - October 1967)

 

on a recent flight to mexico ..i had to surrender a half broomstick (i was going to make a gaff for fishi landing ) my wife had to surrender nail clippers ...so silly ..my mom a 74 year old retired nurse who weighs all of 130 lbs had to remove her wafer thin shoes to check them for explosives

 

If you had packed it in your case, it would be no trouble. Who sits on a plane with a big stick? Or trims their nails?

 

Exactly. Routine safety check.

 

Yup,routinely dangerous nail clippers.They are about as dangerous as the 'assault snowglobe' that Anchorage airport security gave us a hard time about.

 

While I do agree that the measures can be taken a bit far (are hijackers likely to try taking over a plane armed with a vicious pair of nail scissors?) I appreciate the theory behind it. Plus I do wonder why anybody would take scissors on a plane anyway .

 

You never know what a smart terrorist can think of.

 

I have a vision of a hijacker grabbing a stewardess, and demanding that the plane be flown to Cuba or the manicure gets it!

 

To quote Ed Byrne; "If a guy manages to take over a plane with tweezers, you give him the plane. He obviously wants it a lot more then you do."

 

I wouldnt doubt that terrorists would find some use for nail clippers

 

You could find a use for practically anything, shoelaces could be used to strangle people so why not ban shoes and boots with laces? Pens and pencils can be used to stab people and would probably be a much more useful weapon than nail clippers so why not ban them too?

I really can't see how nail clippers could even be used as a weapon in any practical sense.

 

Looking back, yup, woody said 'clippers' not 'scissors'.



Maybe you could threaten to swing out the file attachment and poke somebody?

 

Or you could use the press down bit as a launcher for those little sweets they give you, fire them at the cabin crew and use the confusion to take over the plane! Genius!

 

All BS aside,don't you feel safer knowing there are no nail clippers on your plane?
Also,if someone did get out of hand in-flight,are nailclippers the first thing you would wish you had to combat them with?

 

could clip there throat....

 

Possible,but not before they beat your ass.

 

whatever

Are donkeys allowed on planes?