Why exactly Afghanistan

Thinking about this a bit more:

Well It does make your position quite a bit clearer. There were a fair number of facts in that post. But you disagree with them? How about questions? How do you disagree with a question?

As the old saying goes "none are so blind as those that will not see".

 

Another article that while mostly about Chetchnia has enough parallels to make it useful reading on the current topic.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htun/articles/20130613.aspx

 

But, please, who is behind that strategypages.com website you've just cited?

There are trustworthy authorities, like "Doctors Without Border". Please, just look at their special report:

A Return to Humanitarian Action

Here is an interesting passage:

And this:

- See more at: http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/publications/article.cfm?id=4311&cat=special-report#sthash.Anr8K8Rd.dpuf

 

Here's an interesting look at Afghanistan.

The Afghan parliament has upheld the "right" of men to marry children. In the same act, it upheld the "right" of men to sell women as slaves and of course, it upheld the tradition of charging female victims of rape with fornication or adultery. Of course, this is the new Afghanistan with all the western influence. In the old Afghanistan, they didn't need to have a trial before stoning rape victims to death. They've come a long way!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/10/afghan-parliament-upholds-right-marry-children/#ixzz2W0Sr4wIF

Though I think Tamino is totally wrong about the causes of Afghani Jihad (it's just part of the feudal culture), I do agree that it's time to get the hell out. Let these people get back to hacking each other to death. When they are behind an attack outside their borders, send in the drones and B52's.

 

Please, read something serious about the "Jihad". The perception of Islam as an inherently aggressive religion is wrong.

In that article, Hayward states:
Bin Laden is not a cleric,
a religious scholar or a
historian of early Islam.
He is an impassioned,
violent and murderous
extremist without
judgement or moderation.

That is a correct view.

 

And the current 'moderate' Afghan parliament is? These people are stuck in the 7th century. We should leave them there.

 

Tamino, I urge you strongly to read Woodwards The Veil.

 

Agree with KB...For different reasons but we agree on the leaving em to it...Kabul womens prison is full of the freedom we have managed to persuade the locals to introduce.

 

I absolutely agree with that - and make sure they stay there! I mean: they shouldn't be allowed to get out of the state to make damage to others.

PS: I intend to have some vacations these days and would like also to hear the other side. I promise I'll read Woodwards The Veil too, if it isn't too long.

 

Come on Tamino - seriously! - guess which view is Kabul and which is Grozny (Chechnia)

Very interesting comments on Chechens by all concerned - so now presumably we will see free-booting Afghans for hire , as well.

 

Got to say....after Beslan...I'd have raised it to the ground as well...although they were raising it to ground before Beslan I know.

 

@Scipio
With all due respect to you and all other members, if we look from the different angle, we may see bodies of dead children and the Red Cross Building in Kabul destroyed by American bombs:

 

Finally, I have an answer to my original question: Why exactly Afghanistan?

[SIZE=10pt]More on this subject you may find in: Brzezinski, "The Grand Chess Board"[/SIZE]

 

Wars are an ugly business to be sure, but graphic images of dead children are not needed to make a point. Please refrain.

 

Looks pretty minor Tamino compared to other routes and why spend at least $30billion for the US (and UK £11 billion) just to get a few contracts? You are going in the wrong direction.

No Bin Laden then no attack on Afghanistan - simple as that

 

I mentioned the infamous "oil pipeline" long ago, as an example of media propaganda. No doubt, somebody did briefly look at the feasibility of such a project, but for obvious reasons (1000 miles of terrorists) it was never taken seriously by anyone not wearing a tinfoil hat.

 

The value of oil and gas is about 15 TRILLION, which is a massive return on just about 50 BILION investment of tax-payers money.

The point is not in many routes but reducing them to just a single route, with no competition and with the total control. Hence the events in Grozny, to eliminate possible route towards Europe, Turkey and Russia. Yet I believe now that this is just continuation of the quest for the oil of the Caspian.

I don't believe that all this massive theater is"vendetta" for the Twin Towers. Neither do I believe in tomfoolery about the "humanitarian" attack.

 

Thanks Kodiak. Your input was both valuable and interesting reading too.

 

Tamino....you aint seen the newsreels I take it of Taliban representatives in States for talks on this before 9/11?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm