Why I don't like John Wayne

Ok following my earlier post i checked out supermarket today and they have at between £4.99-£3.99 these JW films sands of iwo jima, longest day, sons of katie elder, rio bravo el dorado, hellfighters, searchers, mcklintock, and a couple more i cant remember just now so next week when i get some money im going buying pilgrim

 

Holy chit!

 

Hi Wtid45, if you guys have a Wal-Mart somewhere near ya-that's where you can find some great deals on some of Dukes movies. A few months ago, I bought the Special Edition for Rio Bravo-which was priced at about $15.00. Recently, I saw it there for $9 bucks.

Those are some great movies that you listed. I don't have a copy of Hellfighters and McLintock---yet.

Miguel, check Dodge City out. It's been released both as a single movie and also with a collection of five Flynn movies. I THINK it was in the 1st Errol Flynn Signature Collection. If not, then it was part of the 2nd Errol Flynn Signature Collection. Anyway, it's a very good Western.

 

Hey carl we have an asda walmart but only film they had that other shop didn't was true grit at £5.99.Watched some of sons of katie elder on tcm testerday then the wife got out the bath and had to turn over she dont like the DUKE

 

Hi Wtid45, heh heh, we'll have to make her change her opinions. ;-)) I have a good friend who lives in a small town in the State of Illinois, and this guy has Duke movies on all day long. When he first met his wife, she hated Duke and his movies. After watching him in several, and I think it was after watching: Rio Grande, that made her change her mind about Duke. You might want to buy a copy of: The Quiet Man, and ask her to watch that one-it should help "soften" her feeling about Duke. The Quiet man also has Maureen O'Hara (his love interest and sister to), Victor McLaglen (who is his chief rival, on going to Ireland) and finally, it has Ward Bond, as an Irish Catholic (or) Protestant Priest.

I think the great "fight scenes" were hilarious. By the way, the areas they filmed this movie in, have preserved soem of the places where TQM was filmed. Also, I just heard from a friend Emmanuel who lives near that area, that someone opened a Pub that is of the same name and same looks, as that of the Pub seen in the movie.

 

hi carl
i watched that film with my day a little wile back..the quight man ..
what a great film i thort somethink diffrent for the duke
cheers krieg

 

You can lead a horse to water........... quiet man is a brilliant JW film and yes those fight scenes are hilarious donavans reef springs to mind as another film with some funny scenes that was on the other wkd and yes you got it the horse again

 

Hi Krieg, Wtid45,

Krieg, that it definately was. Did you know that in order for the Studios to fund this movie, that John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara first had to make Rio Grande. BTW, both films were highly successful.

Wtid45, is your wife a fan of Johnny Horton? and Stewart Granger? if so, ask her to watch: North To Alaska. I think she'd love that one. Also, Donovans Reef is another she might enjoy ;-))

PS, I almost forgot, Fabian is in that movie as well.

 

The Quiet Man...one of my personal favorite movies...ever. A true classic by John Ford, who won the Oscar for Best Director for this film. McLaglen was nominated for Best Supporting Actor.

Carl...You left out the great performance by Barry Fitzgerald as Michaleen Flynn! Fitzgerald was brilliant (as usual) and stole every scene he was in (again, as usual)!

Mary Kate: Could you use a little water in your whiskey?
Michaleen: When I drink whiskey, I drink whiskey and when I drink water, I drink water.

 

Hi Ivan, sorry about that ;-D I also love that line.

Take care and best regards--Carl.

 

Bought True Grit, and The Quiet man today long time since i watched either will watch one and give my up to date verdict.

 

a great chose of films there .45
cheers krieg

 

Looking forward to reading about it ;-))

Tonight in my household, The Comancheros, will be on. Not only had Duke but, Stuart Whitman, Lee Marvin, but also my Cousin (Barbara Edens) ex-hubby-Michael Ansara. Also forgot, it also has Jack Elam in it.

 

Finally got round to watching True Grit took me a little while to get into it but after 20 mins i was really enjoying it the duke, was in top form i loved the part where he charged robert duvall, and co across the field with guns ablazing and reins in teeth and some of the lines! i must be honest i could remember the girl and the duke in the film(must get rooster cogburn i do remember that well) but glen campbell, i had forgot the passage of time eh well Quiet Man next looking forward to the ooold itrsh so i am.

 

First, I do like John Wayne and think he was a good actor, especially in some of his lesser known movies like "The Quiet Man", and "The Wings of Eagles". For several years, I lived in Newport Beach, Calif. and John Wayne had a house, and kept his yacht, the "Wild Goose", across the channel from where I lived. I actually met the man a couple of times as his doctor had an office in the same building as my doctor. I ran into Wayne a couple of times when he was fighting lung cancer. I thought he was a decent sort and a nice guy without the well known Hollywood "celebrity ego".

As a public service, here is alist of his movies;

1925 - Brown of Harvard
1926 - The Great K&A Train Robbery
1926 - Bardelays The Magnificent
1927 - The Drop Kick
1927 - Annie Laurie
1928 - Mother Machree
1928 - Hangman's House
1928 - Four Sons
1929 - Words and Music (Silent)
1929 - Speakeasy
1929 - Salute
1929 - Noah's Ark
1929 - The Forward Pass
1929 - The Black Watch
1929 - Words and Music (Sound)
1930 - Men Without Women
1930 - A Rough Romance
1930 - Born Reckless
1930 - Cheer Up and Smile
1930 - The Big Trail
1931 - Girls Demand Excitement
1931 - Three Girls Lost
1931 - Arizona, aka Men Are Like That
1931 - The Deceiver
1931 - Range Feud
1931 - Maker of Men
1932 - The Voice of Hollywood #13
1932 - Shadow of the Eagle (12-part serial)
1932 - Texas Cyclone
1932 - Two Fisted Law
1932 - That's My Boy
1932 - Lady and Gent, aka The Challenger
1932 - The Hurricane Express (12-part serial)
1932 - The Hollywood Handicap
1932 - Ride Him Cowboy
1932 - The Big Stampede
1932 - Haunted Gold
1933 - The Telegraph Trail
1933 - The Three Musketeers (12-part serial)
1933 - Central Airport
1933 - Somewhere in Sonora
1933 - His Private Secretary
1933 - The Life of Jimmy Dolan, aka The Kid's Last Fight
1933 - Baby Face
1933 - The Man from Monterey
1933 - Riders of Destiny
1933 - College Coach
1933 - Sagebrush Trail
1934 - West of the Divide
1934 - The Lucky Texan
1934 - Blue Steel
1934 - The Man from Utah
1934 - Randy Rides Alone
1934 - The Star Packer
1934 - The Trail Beyond
1934 - The Lawless Frontier
1934 - 'Neath Arizona Skies
1935 - Texas Terror
1935 - Rainbow Valley
1935 - The Desert Trail
1935 - The Dawn Rider
1935 - Paradise Canyon
1935 - Westward Ho
1935 - The Lawless Range
1935 - The New Frontier
1936 - The Oregon Trail
1936 - The Lawless Nineties
1936 - King of the Pecos
1936 - Winds of the Wasteland
1936 - The Lonely Trail
1936 - The Sea Spoilers
1936 - Conflict
1937 - California Straight Ahead
1937 - I Cover the War
1937 - Idol of the Crowds
1937 - Adventure's End
1937 - Born to the West aka Hell Town
1938 - Pals of the Saddle
1938 - Overland Stage Raiders
1938 - Santa Fe Stampede
1938 - Red River Range
1939 - The Night Riders
1939 - Three Texas Steers
1939 - Wyoming Outlaw
1939 - New Frontier, aka - Frontier Horizon
1939 - Stagecoach
1939 - Allegheny Uprising, aka The First Rebel
1940 - Dark Command
1940 - Three Faces West
1940 - The Long Voyage Home
1940 - Seven Sinners
1941 - Stars Past and Present
1941 - A Man Betrayed, aka - Wheel of Fortune
1941 - Lady From Louisiana
1941 - The Shepherd of the Hills
1942 - Lady for a Night
1942 - Reap the Wild Wind
1942 - The Spoilers
1942 - In Old California
1942 - Flying Tigers
1942 - Reunion in France
1942 - Pittsburg
1943 - A Lady Takes a Chance
1943 - In Old Oklahoma aka War of the Wildcats
1944 - The Fighting Seabees
1944 - Tall in the Saddle
1945 - Flame of the Barbary Coast
1945 - Back to Bataan
1945 - They Were Expendable
1945 - Dakota
1946 - Desert Command (re-cut of serial The Three Musketeers)
1946 - Without Reservations
1947 - Angel and the Badman
1947 - Tycoon
1948 - Fort Apache
1948 - Red River
1949 - 3 Godfathers
1949 - Wake of the Red Witch
1949 - The Fighting Kentuckian
1949 - She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
1949 - The Sands of Iwo Jima
1950 - Rio Grande
1951 - Operation Pacific
1951 - The Screen Director (archive footage)
1951 - Flying Leathernecks
1952 - Big Jim McLain
1952 - The Quiet Man
1953 - Trouble Along the Way
1953 - Island in the Sky
1953 - Hondo (released in 3-D)
1954 - The High and the Mighty
1955 - Rookie of the Year (TV movie)
1955 - The Sea Chase
1955 - The Challenge of Ideas (Narrator)
1955 - Blood Alley
1956 - The Conqueror
1956 - The Searchers
1957 - The Wings of Eagles
1957 - Jet Pilot
1957 - Legend of the Lost
1958 - I Married a Woman
1958 - The Barbarian and the Geisha
1959 - Rio Bravo
1959 - The Horse Soldiers
1960 - The Alamo
1960 - North to Alaska
1961 - The Commancheros
1962 - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
1962 - Hatari
1962 - The Longest Day
1962 - Flashing Spikes (TV movie)
1962 - How the West Was Won
1963 - Donovan's Reef
1963 - McLintock
1964 - Circus World, aka The Magnificent Showman
1965 - The Greatest Story Ever Told
1965 - In Harm's Way
1965 - The Sons of Katie Elder
1966 - Cast a Giant Shadow
1967 - A Nation Builds Under Fire (Narrator)
1967 - The War Wagon
1967 - El Dorado
1968 - The Green Berets
1969 - Hellfighters
1969 - True Grit
1969 - The Undefeated
1970 - No Substitute for Victory (documentary)
1970 - Chisum
1970 - Rio Lobo
1970 - Raquel! (TV movie)
1970 - Harry Jackson: A Man and His Art (Narrator)
1970 - Chesty: A Tribute to a Legend (Narrator)
1971 - Big Jake
1971 - Directed by John Ford (documentary)
1971 - The American West of John Ford (documentary)
1972 - The Cowboys
1972 - Cancel My Reservation
1973 - The Train Robbers
1973 - Cahill, United States Marshal
1974 - McQ
1975 - Brannigan
1975 - Rooster Cogburn
1976 - The Shootist
1977 - That's Action (documentary)
1980 - Hollywood (TV movie - archive footage)
1980 - The Duke Lives On (Video Documentary)
1988 - We Can Keep You Forever (TV - archive footage)
1989 - Standing Tall (TV Documentary hosted by James Arness)
1998 - The Story of X (Video - archive footage)
1998 - John Wayne on Film (Video - archive footage)
Unknow Date - Bigger Than Life (Video Documentary)
Unknown Date - John Wayne, An American Legend

 

Hi Wtid45, DevilsAdvocate,

Great films all. However, with True Grit and Rooster Cogburn, I liked the Cogburn movie more since I can't stand Kim Darby. I think Kate Hepburn was great in that movie.

DevilsAdvocate, great movies. I have about 1/2 or so of them on DvD. Some of the above--especially the earliest ones-you can only get a copy of, if your a member of the AFI and or thatFilm Preservation Sociate (I forget it's actual title at this time.) Anyway, a good friend of mine is a lifetime member of both sites and as so, he is privvy to a copy on DvD, anything he wants. I'm thinking of joining those Orgs after making my move and getting setteled.

Also, if you go to: JWMB - The Original John Wayne Message Board! there is a guy by the name of William Brooks who happened to have been an extra in several of Dukes films including: She Wore A Yellow Ribbon and Fort Apache. This guy also was in a few of James Stewarts Westerns. Anyway, he lives near Eager, Arizona, and helps run the 26 Bar Ranch-which Duke co-owned for many years. Bill is a great guy to know.

 

Hi CE,

Yeah, I was aware that there are a lot of early films that are pretty hard to acquire. A friend of mine is a film historian and has a personal library of over 9,000 titles. Most are now on DVD's but a few are still in the original media. I love visiting him because we watch old films for hours and he gives me the inside story on the actors, directors, writers, etc. Most people never hear about the funny, strange, sad things that went on behind the scenes of these movies. My friend, BTW, thinks John Wayne was one of the better actors of his day, and lists him as one of the thirty, or so, greatest actors of all time.

 

Wow DA, that's a lot of movies!! I wish I had that kind of cash! My problem is though, I'd never go outside at all! I'd just be sittin' around watching the Duke!

 

Well, I've known this guy since my high school days and he eats, breathes, and sleeps movies; he is certifiably NUTS about them. He makes his living writing books about Hollywood and the actors and actresses from it's earliest days until the present. He can therefore write off the cost of the movies because they are, in essence, part of his profession.

 

Hey Carl i agree about rooster being better the duke, and hepburn really bounce of each other in that film and it is probably why i remember it more so than True grit.Having decided to buy The longest day next i went to woolworths yesterday and in the dvd sale bin i found a 4 dvd set containing The big trail,North to alaska,The commancheros,and the undefeated all for just £7.00 so me buy. Sat down and watched North to alaska brilliant! again saw this as a kid and it did not disapoint the duke can swing a punch and be funny the scene when stewart granger is with capucine in the honeymoon cabin waiting for the duke to blow is classic and i still got three more films to watch then back on the hunt for more films from the above list.