Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Javey74, May 31, 2018.
The refute our statements. You have yet to make any attempt to do so.
Sigh...We knew it was not written by you, as you lack the intellect required to form original thought. I was hoping that you at least had the intellect necessary to support your posts by doing some research...But, sadly, that is also beyond your ken.
When you have refuted our statements, only then will we be knocked off...Until then, I will continue to enjoy my view in a McClellan saddle.
Pulled up...Reacted strangely? What...replying with sound logical statements is a strange response...You must have only frequented Pokemon forums prior to landing here.
Yeah, I thought it was past someone's nap time...Likely needed a nappy change too.
This person's posts consist almost exclusively of advertising for his clickbait Facebook page:
Okay, since Dick-Waggler is waggling his TV docudramas as evidence of his "research" I guess I'll post some of my research. For Cracking Hitler's Atlantic Wall (I know, it's one of those silly book thingies) it was:
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Damn, I didn't realize what an ignoramus I was...no TV programs, but at least I had a video.
Would you like to see my working bibliography for my current manuscript For Purposes of Service Test? It's only 25 pages long, but then I have not updated it for a while since I've been too busy writing.
For what its worth, my e-book folder takes up 37.9 gigabits and contains 2,215 files. That's not including the two rooms and several cardboard boxes of books.
I am confident in my manhood and knowledge, so I am not going to waste my time typing them out.
That doesn't mean that you shouldn't give them due credit. By not listing a source you are essentially claiming the work for yourself.
Please tell me this thread will continue. I need some entertainment during the day.
You know...In Javey's ridiculously long list of television mind-rot, I did not notice the quintessential television documentary series "The World At War."
I can only presume that he is not interested in any actual learning, only mischievous gossip.
I'm just waiting for Javey to ascend his porcelain throne and start regaling us with his delusions of grandeur.
In our current social media climate how anyone can take things at face value never ceases to amaze me.
Because he is young and dumb...Hence his, don't question the "experts", no matter how wrong they are.
Ahh, to be young again, life was so much simpler then.
Ignorance is bliss
Forty-three isn't young. At forty-three I already had 11 years in working for DMSi/TNDA/TDI and had co-written three books with Trevor (Hitler's Last Gamble, Future Wars, and Attrition), wrote another with Curt Johnson (Artillery Hell), had written I don't know how many reports for Boeing, LMI, the Army, the Air Force, and I've lost track of how many other corporations and DOD agencies, including one report, which we were later told was directly instrumental with President Clinton agreeing to authorize the deployment of IFOR in the wake of the Dayton Accords, and participated in the research in primary and secondary sources for the Ardennes Combat Simulation Data Base, Kursk Data Base, Battle of Britain Data Base, and other conflict data bases. I also long ago learned not to trust "experts" and also to question my own assumptions before exploring a topic.
"Young" isn't an excuse; its an age descriptor. "Dumb" may be accurate, but is curable by curiosity and a willingness to learn. Unfortunately, given his lack of personal growth since posting his egregious "Omaha" Who was responsible for the strategy?" thread and his out of control arrogance in this thread, I suspect any possibility of that occurring is remote. People who depend on TV for their history are like those who depend on Facebook for their political awareness. Asking them to develop critical thinking skills is like asking your cat to comment on Aristotelian logic.
Not it isn't. It's agony, at least for the rest of the moderately intelligent world. It's why I so often get myself in trouble for using intemperate language with the perennially clueless. Yes, you can fix ignorance, but only if the ignorant are willing to learn. Otherwise, they aren't ignorant, they're stupid and you can't fix stupid.