WWII Forums Quiz Part VII

Swoosie Kurtz.

"Mr. Kurtz, a career Air Force officer who later worked as an executive with the William May Garland development company in Los Angeles, is also survived by his daughter, Swoosie Kurtz, who is surely the only actress named for an airplane."

Frank Kurtz, 85, World War II Hero, Dies - New York Times

 

Hmm...Where were Eisenhower and Churchill on Dolle Dinstag - September 5, 1944? The significance?

Michelle

 

This is just a guess...

...Antwerp, Belgium, for the signing of a unity treaty between Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxemborg?


-whatever

-Lou

 

What's the question?

 

65,000 Dutch/Nazi collaborators fled to Germany.

 

W. Churchill travels to Scotland.

Wild Guess:

On september 1, 1944 was Montgomery promoted to Field Marshall so they had to promote Ike Eisenhower ( Did they choose on 5 september to promote him? )

 

Yes, but I didn't say when he was promoted. Because they had to choose whether Ike Eisenhower would be promoted to a five-star general or not.

 

On board the Queen Mary en route to the Quebec conference. Can't think of any special significance though.

 

Russia declares war on Bulgaria.
Patton starts his Lorianne offensive.
both Ike & Winnie have a good lunch, a constitutional, and a long nap ?

 

I haven't come up with anything definitve, but I did stumble across this diary of the First Sea Lord, Andrew B. Cunningham, which certainly provides some interesting insights into Churchill and his subordinates.

In the general time frame of September 5, 1944 he records:

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Tues Aug 29

PM's trip put off 12 hours on account of weather so there was no early rising. . . . PM was hurried to his car by [Lord] Moran [Churchill's doctor]. He certainly looked ill . . . two nurses & a specialist had been sent for. I hope it is only wise precautions. It would be a tragedy if anything should happen to him now. With all his faults (& he is the most infuriating man) he has done a great job for the country & besides there is no one else.
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Thurs Aug 31
An infuriating telegram from the PM to Alexander just in. Alexander has been up to his old game of complaining about the navy to the PM. I will have it out with the CIGS tomorrow.
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Mon Sep 4
(Very busy preparing for trip to Quebec and turning over the business to [Admiral] Syfert).
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Tues Sep 5
(Talk with PM) 'If he keeps up his present attitude things should go well in Quebec & it will be what the Americans call a 'love pact.' (LOVE FEAST?) But it takes little to lose his vengeful temper & he will do anything then to get the better of our allies.

He sent for me at about 17:00 to tell me there was a rumour that Germany has capitulated. Also to say that if true he must remain in England & what was to happen if we were two days out & it proved to be true. I said the only thing to do was to turn the ship round & come back.
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Wed Sep 6
The PM persists in thinking that Italy is one of the main theatres whereas as things are going in France & Russia it really has become a theatre of little importance. No meeting with PM today. He is very flat probably as a result of M & B.
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Thurs Sep 7
The COS lunched with the PM. What a lunch. A whole dressed crab each, curried chicken with all sorts of trimmings, & some sweet & cheese. I am still feeling the effects. The PM still very flat, not much sparkle about him.
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Sep 8
Now in the Gulf Stream
He was in his worst mood. Accusing the COS of ganging up against him & keeping papers from him & so on. Would not see that Italy after Kesselring is again defeated becomes a secondary front & that the real work is on the Russian & Western fronts. Wants at all costs to keep Alexander's army up to full strength even though there are more divisions than Alexander can use. Is determined to have an amphibious operation, to take Istria even though it is of no military consequence & so on & so on. The worst of it is his feeling against the Americans whom he accused of doing the most awful things against the British. There is no question he is not well & is feeling this hot sticky weather. . . . PM sent for the commander & tried to get him to alter out of the Gulf Stream. As this would take him over the Newfoundland Bank he rightly did'nt [sic] like it. Together we went & convinced the PM.
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Sun Sep 10
Lunched with the PM as we were entering Halifax [Nova Scotia]. Half lobster & a lamb chop brandy & cheeses!! . . . My compartment had a double bed!! . . . During daylight crowds at the stations to see the PM.
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Tues Sep 12 [At Québec] Had a meeting with the PM at 18:30 & found him in a mood of sweet reasonableness.

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No idea where Ike was, but it sounds like he missed some really nice meals!

-whatever

-Lou

 

Yes. Churchill was onboard the Queen Mary heading for the Quebec Conference with Franklin Roosevelt, and William Lyon MacKenzie. He was also accompanied by the British chiefs of staff.

Sept 1, 1944 Montgomery was promoted to Field Marshall. On Sept 1 Eisenhower, made a major change of command .... which is a bit of hint as to where he was on Sept 5; and perhaps the significance.

Are there rules about how long before I give the answers?

 

nope, you don't ever have to tell.
There's no rule against giving hints though.
If you don't get responses, that means I'm/we're pretty much stumped, confused, clueless.

 

A little late as I was in class this evening. Will probably be this time tomorrow as well since I have class again after work.

In a way giving hints is harder that just writing out the answer!!

Eisenhower was not in London, not even England....

One of the books I've been reading lately gave me the extra information. Lou didn't have the right answer, but the significance is related to the geographic area.

Did these help?

 

No.