Welcome to the WWII Forums! Log in or Sign up to interact with the community.

WWII small arms

Discussion in 'Small Arms and Edged Weapons' started by Hufflepuff, Feb 18, 2008.

  1. mac_bolan00

    mac_bolan00 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2008
    Messages:
    717
    Likes Received:
    20
    you should have it dated. if it predates the beretta 92, then it is rare. after ww1, gun buffs brought back lugers and discovered they made excellent trail and hunting sidearms. what could be weirder than a cowboy or a mountain man holding a luger?
     
  2. Commander of the F.S.

    Commander of the F.S. Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2008
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    My big question is how come you guys don't say any thing about the FG-42 paratrooper rifle used by few German paratroopers
     
  3. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426
    Its mentioned in posts #10 and #11.
     
    Slipdigit likes this.
  4. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

    Joined:
    May 21, 2007
    Messages:
    18,054
    Likes Received:
    2,376
    Location:
    Alabama
    How much amnunition did you try to carry at any given time?

    Did the bipod tend to hang up in foliage or were you getting rid of weight on the end of the barrel? or both?
     
  5. Commander of the F.S.

    Commander of the F.S. Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2008
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    I read in a World War 2 small arms book and the MG-42 is like the US M-60 is that true:ac_me262::_achtung:
     
  6. statue1

    statue1 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2008
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    2
    I have fired:
    P-08
    P38
    Broom Handle Mauser
    Colt 1911
    Garand
    M1 Carbine
    MP 40
    Thompson
    98K
    And they all rock, although I love the Broom Handle.
    If your ever in Las Vegas you can go to a number of ranges and rent FULL AUTO weapons to give a spin.
     
  7. Hufflepuff

    Hufflepuff Semi-Frightening Mountain Goat

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    1,362
    Likes Received:
    79
    Location:
    Sewanee, Tennessee, USA
    I have heard about this too; you have to admit that they look somewhat similar, even if they are in detail completely different.
     
    Commander of the F.S. likes this.
  8. Tony Williams

    Tony Williams Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    1,006
    Likes Received:
    23
    It depends on what you mean by "like". As you say, they look similar but the only technical resemblance IIRC is the belt feed mechanism, which was copied from the MG 42. The M60's operating mechanism was I believe copied from the FG 42.
     
  9. Commander of the F.S.

    Commander of the F.S. Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2008
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Is the Russian RPG-7 or the American LAW like the German Panzerfaust? I like the look of the panzerfaust and Panzersherck
     
  10. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426
    IIRC the replacable barrel was another MG-42 feature that was similar between the two.
     
  11. Hufflepuff

    Hufflepuff Semi-Frightening Mountain Goat

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    1,362
    Likes Received:
    79
    Location:
    Sewanee, Tennessee, USA
    The RPG-7 is more like the Panzerfaust, becasue it has a front-fed rocket and the LAW not. However, the Panzerfaust and the LAW are similar in that they are both one-time-use weapons, that have one shot only.

    I recently made a homemade "Panzerschreck" out of PVC tubing and wood (yes, I know).
     
  12. Tony Williams

    Tony Williams Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    1,006
    Likes Received:
    23
    Do you mean the specific locking mechanism? Quick-change barrels predated the MG 42 (the Bren and its predecessors, for instance).
     
  13. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426
    No. Just the similarity between the two having the ability to be able to.
     
  14. Lt Fox

    Lt Fox Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2008
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well i have ...well my dad has a PPSH ....and i used a clip on it and i love it because of the Recoil and the amount of it that shoots...At first youll feel the push back but then you start getting the hang of it..and i loved it.
     
  15. Commander of the F.S.

    Commander of the F.S. Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2008
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    What if the Nazis came out with the STG-44 earler?
     
  16. Hufflepuff

    Hufflepuff Semi-Frightening Mountain Goat

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    1,362
    Likes Received:
    79
    Location:
    Sewanee, Tennessee, USA
    The war would've taken a faster pace, I tend to think, with weapon design and infantry tactics.

    Didn't somebody cover that in another thread?
     
  17. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426

    Yes T.A. did. I can't remember the thread though.
     
  18. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    426
    Here it is. Thanks and credit to T.A. Gardner.

    "It isn't the weapon that is important, it is the orgainzed unit within which it is being used that is critical. The difference on the battlefield between the various submachineguns, excepting those of very poor quality, is insignificant, just as the choice of rifle is. Yes, semi-automatics do make a small difference as do assault rifles. But, in infantry units the only weapons of real military siginficance are machineguns, mortars, and grenade launchers / man portable HE /AT weapons."

    http://www.ww2f.com/information-requests/22907-russian-vs-german-infantry-weapons.html#post277452
     
  19. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

    Joined:
    May 12, 2003
    Messages:
    8,809
    Likes Received:
    372
    Location:
    Portugal
    Erich likes this.
  20. Tony Williams

    Tony Williams Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    1,006
    Likes Received:
    23
    I mostly agree with that.

    The real benefit of the assault rifles is that they provided each soldier who had one with a multipurpose weapon, which could do the job of both an SMG and (at normal ranges) a rifle. So compared with a unit equipped with a mixture of SMGs and semi-auto or bolt-action rifles, the useful firepower was, on average, higher, since the rifle-armed men weren't very handy in street fighting while the SMG-armed men weren't much use in open country.
     

Share This Page