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Your Favorite Sherman...

Discussion in 'The Tanks of World War 2' started by Hoosier phpbb3, Feb 13, 2006.

  1. Markus Becker

    Markus Becker Member

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    Does the round actually bounce off or does it just look like it bounces off? Given the fact that the tank catches fire immediately after the hit, I think the latter. Maybe it´s some part of the shell or the armour creating a misleading impression.

    I´ll check this in another forum!
     
  2. Notmi

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    Not really. I dont think there was any WW2 -era tank armour which was immune to this kind of 'damage'.

    Easily. Some of those splinters could be hot and when hitting to ammunition they could ignite powder. And after that it is fireworks.

    Yes.

    And if anyone think that hitshock cannot splinter armour, check how HESH-ammunition works against tanks.
     
  3. Gunter_Viezenz

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    i am not quite sure iys not like I have access to the video.
     
  4. Markus Becker

    Markus Becker Member

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    @Gunter_Viezenz:

    The guy in the other forum is 100% convinced the tank´s armour was penetrated, given the fact that it burst into flames within seconds of being hit.

    @Notmi:

    I was told the metal is so hot, it melts.
     
  5. Gunter_Viezenz

    Gunter_Viezenz New Member

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    you should see a 50cal bullet hitting a 15mm think piece of stiel at 90degrees, there is a large amount of fire created, hardly visible thru the naked eye but if u have a high speed camerca u can c it perfectly.
     
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    Does the wet stowage matter when your tank is overloaded with ammo?
    I guess wet stowage was limited and didnt count for all ammo?!
     
  7. aglooka

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    afaik wet storage was implemented for all ammo in the Sherman. Loading extra ammo was strongly discouraged and even forbidden. There was less impetus for the crew to carry extra ammo anyhow since:
    a. they realized the advantage in safety of only having ammo in the protected racks.
    b. resupply usually was not much of a problem

    aglooka
     
  8. Gunter_Viezenz

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    Thats a problems the Germans had msot of the war.
     
  9. Lyndon

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    I think you mean the Isherman. The 'Super Sherman' was the Israeli long barreled 75mm M-50 Sherman (which still looked awesome with a huge 75mm CN 75-50). The 'ultimate' Sherman, with the outrageously long 105mm CN 105 D 1 gun was known as the M-51 'Isherman', not Super Sherman:

    http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ ... /M-51.html
     
  10. SgtBob

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    The official designation may have been Isherman, but back in the 70's and 80's most people called them Super Shermans. I still have an SPI board game made in 1975 that refered to them that way, and James P. Dunnigan (who was CEO of SPI) is still considered one of the world's leading experts on warfare.
     
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    sherman

    Today I received my Regimental OCA news letter,I thought this passage from Dec.42 might be of interest.
    "By December The Bays received some new Sherman tanks better than the early type with Wright Whirlwind aero engines using high octane, these were diesels powered by twin GM's and the Regiment was again nearly up to full strength."
     
  12. Roel

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    Those must have been M4A2s, or Sherman Mk.IIIs. As far as I know this is the only type of Sherman ever to run on Diesel, and most were indeed sent abroad via Lend-Lease.
     
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  14. Hoosier phpbb3

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    US Marine tankers also used M4A2 Shermans.
    C Company, 1st Corps Tank Battalion (medium) waded ashore at Tarawa equipped with M4A2 diesel-powered Shermans. They were attached to the 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Light tank Battalion to supplement the M3 Stuarts.
    By the end of the first day, only one Sherman remained in action on Red beach 3: Colorado.
    By the end of the fight, only two Shermans were still in operation:
    China Gal (HQ), and Colorado (3rd Platoon).
    Other Shermans knocked-out or disabled, included:
    Company HQ:Chicago
    1st Platoon: Cobra, Cecilia, Clipper and Cherokee
    2nd Platoon: Commando and Cuddles (other two are unknown)
    3rd Platoon: Cannonball, Charlie and Condor

    For additional info/pix, see:
    www.tarawaontheweb.org

    Tim
     
  15. shermanologist on watch

    shermanologist on watch New Member

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    About FM 5-20B
    http://www.lonesentry.com/camouflage_manual/index.html
    This manual is on line here
    HTH[/url]
     
  16. Roel

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    Thanks very much, HTH, I'm sure that will be helpful to Sturmtiger as well.
     
  17. Lyndon

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    Isherman.

    That picture of the Isherman just reinforced my opinion.......my favourite Sherman version EVER! :D
     
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    I wonder why they did mount the CN 105 F1 gun on a better Sherman version...
     
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    The M4A3 with HVSS was the best version of the Sherman they could have based it on, as far as I know. The M4A1 they used was probably surplus or a cheap deal.
     
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    Hello Hoosier,
    Absolutely my favorite would be what APPEARS to be a "M490" but really is the M36B - the 90mm M36 turret on top of an M4 chassis. Have seen photos of these in German towns 1945.
    I suppose my ultimate M4 would be the "Easy 8" with the M36 90mm turret, plus some extra frontal armor, similar to a "jumbo"
     

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