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Things sure have changed over the years. Snowflakes and feminists beware.

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  1. KodiakBeer

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    I find this interesting. Donna Hylton is a darling of the snowflake generation. She was a headliner for the 'Women's March' and speaks (for pay) on various forums and leftist panels about how hard it was for her to be in prison (sniff...).

    Why was she in prison? She kidnapped an elderly gay man for ransom, tortured him for three days by crushing his testicles with pliers, burned him and sodomizing him with a 3 foot steel pole (because "he was a homo anyway"), then killed him.

    None of that matters because Donna Hylton is a "victim" of the white patriarchal system that should have put on a vagina hat, recognized her unique status as a woman and forgiven her for kidnapping, torture and murder.

    College Speaker Whines About Jail, Fails To Say She TORTURED AND KILLED A Man
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    And all the "snowflakes" are like that?
     
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  3. KodiakBeer

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    Yes, or we wouldn't see this cretin made a hero by the left.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Poisoning the Well



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    (also known as: discrediting, smear tactics)

    Description: To commit a preemptive ad hominem attack against an opponent. That is, to prime the audience with adverse information about the opponent from the start, in an attempt to make your claim more acceptable or discount the credibility of your opponent’s claim.

    Logical Form:

    Adverse information (be it true or false) about person 1 is presented.

    Therefore, the claim(s) of person 1 will be false.

    Example #1:

    Tim: Boss, you heard my side of the story why I think Bill should be fired and not me. Now, I am sure Bill is going to come to you with some pathetic attempt to weasel out of this lie that he has created.

    Explanation: Tim is poisoning the well by priming his boss by attacking Bill’s character, and setting up any defense Bill might present as “pathetic”. Tim is committing the fallacy here, but if the boss were to accept Tim’s advice about Bill, she, too, would be committing the fallacy.

    Example #2:

    I hope I presented my argument clearly. Now, my opponent will attempt to refute my argument by his own fallacious, incoherent, illogical version of history.

    Explanation: Not a very nice setup for the opponent. As an audience member, if you allow any of this “poison” to affect how you evaluate the opponent’s argument, you are guilty of fallacious reasoning.

    Exception: Remember that if a person states facts relevant to the argument, it is not an ad hominem attack. In the first example, if the other “poison” were left out, no fallacy would be committed.

    Tim: Boss, you heard my side of the story why I think Bill should be fired and not me. Now, I am sure Bill is going to come to you with his side of the story, but please keep in mind that we have two witnesses to the event who both agree that Bill was the one who told the client that she had ugly children.

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    Walton, D. (1998). Ad Hominem Arguments. University of Alabama
     
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  5. KodiakBeer

    KodiakBeer Member

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    Your rebuttal holds no water. The 'snowflakeazation' of the left is too universal to be a fallacy. We see our campuses under siege every time a speaker threatens to appear and say something that isn't politically orthodox (in the yes of the left). They cancelled the Rose Parade in Portland because the county republican party said they'd skip their yoga classes and march along, which set off threats of violence and arson to be directed against the entire march route by masked leftists.

     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I thought you were smarter that this.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Stereotyping:
    Description: The general beliefs that we use to categorize people, objects, and events while assuming those beliefs are accurate generalizations of the whole group.

    Logical Form:

    All X’s have the property Y (this being a characterization, not a fact).

    Z is an X.

    Therefore, Z has the property Y.

    Example #1:

    French people are great at kissing. Julie is French. Get me a date!

    Explanation: “French people are great at kissing” is a stereotype, and believing this to be so is a fallacy. While it may be the case that some or even most are great at kissing, we cannot assume this without valid reasons.

    Example #2:

    Atheists are morally bankrupt.

    Explanation: This isn’t an argument, but just an assertion, one not even based on any kind of facts. Stereotypes such as these usually arise from prejudice, ignorance, jealousy or even hatred.

    Exception: Statistical data can reveal properties of a group that are more common than in other groups, which can affect the probability of any individual member of the group having that property, but we can never assume that all members of the group have that property.

    Tip: Remember that people are individuals above being members of groups or categories.

    References:



    MAC, M. J. T., PhD, CSAC. (2006). Critical Thinking for Addiction Professionals. Springer Publishing Company.
     
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  8. KodiakBeer

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    Nice, meanwhile Yale grad students that get 40K a year, free tuition, free housing and free medical, are holding a "Hunger Strike" for more money under the proviso that they only get to eat when they are hungry. Hysterical laughter heard coming from Bobby Sand's grave. College Republicans are supporting them by holding a BBQ next to the strikers.

    Yale grad students' 'hunger strike' apparently involves eating when hungry
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Okay, I apologize for thinking you were smarter than this. Won't happen again.
     
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    The most blatantly sexist song is Wives and Lovers with the verse

    Day after day
    There are girls in the office
    And men will always be men
    Don't send him off
    With your hair still in curlers
    You may not see him again

    I have always wanted to replace the lyrics reversing the gender.
    Perhaps warning the male that sprawling on the couch, on his 6th beer, in his undershirt, scratching his bits and yelling at the sport on the television is not alluring and is likely to result in his partner having it off with the postman or gardener!
     
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  11. KodiakBeer

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    Thank you!

    Meanwhile, snowflakes that rioted for more transparency in elections prior to the election, are now protesting Wikileaks for making the Hillary campaign more transparent.
     
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    And every single right winger is ready to kill the snowflakes because they disagree with the hard right philosophy, right? Or does this only work one way?
     
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    I must apologise for highjacking the post by commenting on the use of the word 'snowflake'. It appears that my Mother was correct in saying that I could start an argument in an empty room.
     
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    No, we would only oppose snowflakes if they rioted in protest of the civil rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights. Oh wait...
     
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    Round here at the moment, I suspect even one person is no longer required.
    I reckon if we left it alone for a week it'd start auto-generating disagreement over random subjects.
    Some sort of chaos algorithm in the new installation maybe... :butterfly:
     
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    Yep, they all do that. And all right wingers are now hunting them down and killing them.
     
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    The situation is best explained in this Jim Brockmire clip where he explains how snowflakes from Butler, PA have infiltrated into patriotic Morristown, PA.

     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Is he one of the people trying to kill the people who don't agree with him?
     
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    He's an American icon (to those who don't hate Baseball!), who doesn't burn college campuses to protest free speech.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    And all the snowflakes do, right?

    And I've never loved baseball. Lou Brock being the only exception.
     
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