Corona Virus - How is that working for you?

Well, it's official. CDC says you anit seen nothing yet. 2nd wave will be worse.

CDC director warns second wave of coronavirus this winter will likely be worse

 

327 million Americans do not have C19
327.9 million Americans did not die from C19

 

156,000 infantry went in on D Day and 150,000 made it. Given the choice, I'm pretty sure I'd rather be tasked to drive a truck off the LST on DDay+3. But that's just me.


Some good news on survival chances in today's feed. A Chinese study published at the end of March in the New England Journal of Medicine that suggested only 12.6% of 1,000 people infected with the virus were smokers while the number of smokers in China is around 28%. No the wife will stop bitching about my habit maybe.

 

Given that the estimated 2020 pop. Is 331 mill, does this mean 4 million do have it?

Unless you have tested all, you cannot say for certain those who do not have it.

 

''estimated''???!!!
you know what I mean
please---ok ..population of the US is 330,258,548,45987845621254458877896655444115222222222222222222e8447674635653252552
still, over 327 million have not died
.....4 out of 5 have unnoticeable symptoms = they are ok.....so if more have it that we don't know about, that makes it even less '''deadly''/less MONSTROUS
...I ''like'' how the MSM has the deaths per day every day ....they love a death count
..it's the same with a lot of MSM stories--they publish click bait/sensational crap [lies frequently ] --instead of the truth

 

In Europe the maximum disease is over according the numbers. However we expect the second the invasion that has gone to China. There may not be defence to another infektion. Total ******.

 

I would hope we'll be better prepared to act early for the 2nd wave. Listening to what the professionals are saying about masks I'm hearing this.

For the general public an N95 will protect you from inhaling or exhaling the virus. A cloth mask will prevent spreading the virus if you have it. As asymptomatic transmission may be possible, it should be mandatory for masks to be worn in public. IMHO.

Testing is key to limit transmission. This was posted in another forum by a guy working on testing. It's complicated.

Tests: Direct Methods- actual detection of live virus (culture), detection of viral nucleic acids (rtPCR), detection of viral proteins (Antigen detection). Antigen detection requires generation of an antibody that will bind a virus target protein within a bodily fluid/tissue. These will take a bit longer due to how the targeting antibodies are generated.

Indirect Methods- these are surrogate markers for infection- Antibody assays IgM/ IgG/IgA. IgM antibodies are a marker of recent infection and fade (generally) fast with time. IgG antibodies are usually long lasting but often do not distinguish current infection from past infection with the same infectious agent. IgA are mucosal antibodies and are (generally) short lived. Cytokine/host marker profiles- elevated /altered cirulating signaling molecules may define a disease state. Indirect assays can also measure host metabolite changes, volatile organic compounds

Tests: Direct Methods- actual detection of live virus (culture), detection of viral nucleic acids (rtPCR), detection of viral proteins (Antigen detection). Antigen detection requires generation of an antibody that will bind a virus target protein within a bodily fluid/tissue. These will take a bit longer due to how the targeting antibodies are generated.

Indirect Methods- these are surrogate markers for infection- Antibody assays IgM/ IgG/IgA. IgM antibodies are a marker of recent infection and fade (generally) fast with time. IgG antibodies are usually long lasting but often do not distinguish current infection from past infection with the same infectious agent. IgA are mucosal antibodies and are (generally) short lived. Cytokine/host marker profiles- elevated /altered cirulating signaling molecules may define a disease state. Indirect assays can also measure host metabolite changes, volatile organic compounds

 

....yes, they are ok....humans don't get sick???!!! 4 out of 5 have barely noticeable symptoms = they hardly feel it ...
..ok =everyone to their bubble bunkers

 

Always nice to see compassion for fellow human beings...

 

hahahahah..
..yes , Biak probably meant the same thing....please, don't post more nonsense posts ....keep it real .....maybe I should put you on ignore, since you just insulted me....I didn't insult Rich, but he put me on ignore -hahhahhshhahahhahahahaha
...as stated, my company has not stopped working...we put in numerous checks/policies....and update them....one worker had a family member get C19, so they sent the line home until Monday/etc--about 5 people
---use common sense and sanitary measures--and it keeps the spread down

....if you are afraid of it, don't go out ....no one is stopping people from isolating ......if you have elderly relatives, take care of them...
....so we are supposed to go into a Greater Depression than the Great Depression and not use common sense while saving lives?

 

--o yes, = acceptable number for what?!?... we can beat this crap--keeping deaths down-- and not go into a ThunderDome-BarterTown economy
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If common sense was common we wouldn't need speed limits. The Mayor of Las Vegas is a good example.

 

The response by many governors is beyond outrageous and well beyond the bounds where people should protest.

Consider: In Michigan the buses are still running, but if you get caught alone out on a lake or stream fishing you face legal consequences. The same is true in other states like NY, NM, others. NYC is still operating the subway system, but all public lands are closed in that state.

These rules are ludicrous and even help spread the virus. Why close the little corner store and force people to ride a bus to a crowded big box store? How does that help?

Here in Arizona the governor is encouraging people to get out on public lands and enjoy the outdoors (as he should), but in neighboring New Mexico you will be arrested for doing that.

All this for a virus that has a .01 to 02 death rate.

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I always keep it real & none of my posts have been nonsense.

Where did I insult you? I have posted nothing but truth to ignorance.

Yawn...What gives you the idea that you are the only one here working? I've been putting in 6&7day weeks since before this began.

My company also has such policies in place and is enforcing them quite stringently. It is not the company or co-workers that are the problem...It is the ID10Ts that we call guests/customers. Several just didn't care what was happening. Now, with the Governor's decree, we can actually enforce guest policy.

Common sense is not as common as you presume.

I'm not afraid of it, I take precautions. It is those who do not care and do not take precautions that concern me.

Common sense is being used to contain the virus, so what is your beef?
Not being able to go to the gym or movie theater? Or is it that the local GameStop is closed?

 

I'm from Michigan originally, and my friends there say that they must "stay at home" except for "essential" activities. They can be arrested for doing something "not essential" like picking morels in the woods or fishing. The bitch-in-charge there even closed the "non-essential" side of the big box stores (after closing all the small stores) so that if you need a car battery, quart of oil, child car seat, etc, you can't have it because it is "non-essential."
In neighboring New Mexico, the state police raided a rural drive-through car wash and shuttered it even though it was run via putting your card in a machine, and had no human contact. It was "non-essential."
And guess what, in 9 (?) states there is no shut down at all. It is only advised that people maintain social distancing, and the rates of infection are no different between those free states and the most draconian states. You can look at an infection map and verify this for yourself.

People are not stupid. You don't have to stick a government gun in people's faces to enforce things like social distancing. You don't have to shutter small businesses and force people to use big box stores. These laws are not helpful.

What might be helpful is to concentrate on those people at risk rather than the general population. Wall off nursing homes and activities like sporting events, not small businesses.

I'm old and at risk. I can look out for myself rather than demanding the state throw millions of people out of work for a virus that is less dangerous than Flu to most people.

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