Carl's militaria collection part 2

Again I want to present some of Carl's militaria collection! This time you will see some beautifull shoulderboards, collar tabs and rifles.

First: SS panzer untersturmführers shoulderboards and SS panzer obersturmbahnführers slip-on shoulderboards.

 

Second: Generalmajors soulderboards in mint condition.

 

Third: Collar tabs from SS sturmbrigade Langemarck and SS Nordland division.

 

Ooops I forgot some things. On the second picture you see also Generals collar tabs.

On the thirs picture you see also SS Feldgendarmerie Sturmbannführers slip-on shoulderboards.

 

Fourth:
Top: S-42 K-98 Mauser sniper variant serial #2k1-T. Made in 1936 with a fixed 25 round Ansteckmagazin which was made in 1935.

Bottom:
1898 30/40 Krag Carabine. This rifle was one that was used in the Spanish-American war and carried up San Juan Hill by a member of Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders.

 

Carl, if you could hear the list of names I am calling you, you would turn a funny color (though the first one is 'lucky'). I am VERY envious!

 

Nice stuff, Carl. Like the K98!

 

Thank you guys

Volkbert--thank you for posting these pics for me. I have been wanting to have my rifles posted on any site for a few years now and this site is the first to have them posted on.

Stefan

Stevin

And thanks.

Yeah--I absolutely LOVE my Mauser Rifle. I haven't taken it out and fired it yet--don't know if I will but--i'd like to fire it.

On my Krag--the leather sling is an original sling--still is strong and supple--for a sling that is at least 105 years old.

Sorry about the bright colors on the shoulderboards--this is how they came out on the scanner from Kinko's. The pink and orange are actually not as bright in color--as well as my Generals Collar Tabs and Generalleutnants Shoulderboards.

Almost forgot to mention--the two SS Collar Tabs are for SS Sturmbrigade Langemarck as Volkbert correctly pointed out (THE unit my RKT/friend Remy Schrijnen is the sole RKT of)) and my Collar Tab is actually in much better condition than his is.

Volkbert--I had forgotten to reply to you in the PM--no it's not Remys tab--he still has his. In fact--I sent him a pic of mine which he still has--as well as pics of these three sets of W-SS Boards.

Oh and in the pic showing my Mauser--the framed poster is an original German Army Recruiting poster with companion Card.

On the Collar Tabs--they were made at Dachau Concentration Camp. How you can tell they were made ther--easy--look at the style of stitching on the backside in white thread.

The Shoulderboards were made there as well. I got these not only because I could at that time afford them but--also as a way to remember the persecuted Jewish peoples. Only expert craftsmen as they were, could make such beautiful insignia.

[ 16. June 2003, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: C.Evans ]

 

Hi Carl, nice collection. The S-42 Mauser must indeed be rare. Where's the first part of the collection?

A short question, how can one tell Waffen SS shoulderboards from Heer ones?

Best regards/ Daniel

 

Hi Daniel--

Thank you much my friend.

W-SS from HEER boards. All W-SS Boards have black cloth backing--or to my knowledge.

 

Aha, thanks for pointing that out.

Best regards/ Daniel

 

Very Nice Carl, great!

 

Carl -

Excuse me my friend, but not all Waffen SS shoulder boards have black backing cloth. Allgemine yes, but there are photographs of Waffen SS boards having the Feld-grau backing being worn in Russia and in Italy with SS armor units. I am running out of time here, work beckons, but I will get back to you on this tonight. Need to run.

Be good to each other.

Bill

 

Hi Bill--thank you for pointing that out--I wasn't fully sure about it. Well--except for enlisted mens boards--those i've never seen black cloth backing. In fact--my friend from San Antonio has a nice set for sale that I wouldn't mind having. I think its a Waffen SS Medical personnel Enlisted mans set of boards--wool grey with blue piping. I think he's asking $200.00 as they are a mint set.

Also--if I had the cash--I found a mint Feldjager's Gorget for sale on a site. I'm hoping my tax refund will get here before that sells. They have it for about $500.00 give or take a few--and for a mint one of those--that's almost dirt cheap.

I'm just dying to own a Gorget-- Especially one in mint condition and is a Feldjager at that. Not to be out done--I want a nice Feldgendarmerie Gorget as well.

 

Carl, don't forget that you are saving for a computer now.

Best regards/ Daniel

 

Carl, were the actual tabs themselves (the bit around the waffenfabre goes) field grey or green for the heer (depending on the service obviously, could be blue or err, blue) whilst SS wore black, or is the bit you were talking about when you say backing (I am assuming you mean the bit at the back to which the tab which goes through the loop goes)? Does that make sense?

 

Hi Daniel--one wonders if I can ever quit spending long enough to get a computer. All I can say is that I will get one--just can't promise on a month--let alone probably what year. Seriously though--i'm going to try getting one before this year is through--then I can put full effort into doing things for these forums as well as TRF.

Hi Stefan--If your talking about the two Waffen SS tabs--they are on black material with burlap backing/strengthener under the black wool.

Now for Heer tabs--they are on dark green wool. Luftwaffe can be red--yellow--dark blue--green, orange, white, brown and other colored wool. The Army-Heer tabs all have the same coloring which is the dark green--which is the exact same scolor as the wool collars they are sewed to.

Now--if you are talking about Heer Parade tabs--the entire backing is in branch of service color like Lemon Yellow for signals--Gold for Cavalry, Red for Artillery etc and the two Roman Columns will be either silver or white on the solid colored wool background. Reason I say silver or white is because I do not own a pair so i'm not 100% positive as to the color of the two Roman Colums but--an educated guess is that they are silver--as on the ones worn on any service uniforms.

On SS tabs--as far ((as I know)) they were only solid black--minus the tresse for NCOs and Officers and of course--the insignia that is on the tab itself.

You were correct in your assumption--that backing is indeed what I am talking about. One thing though--the backing on the boards will be the same whether or not they are sew on type or slip on type. Sew on type has no cloth "tongue" to slip through a loop and the rounded end through a button on the tunics shoulder. These are sewn on as is on my Artillery Majors tunic.

Hope I did not confuse you more

 

That is what I was thinking Carl, one more uestion, what is Burlap? I often hear people use the term but it doesnt seem to be in common use 'over the pond'. Cheers

 

Hi Stefan--Burlap is a roughish material which is what you can see on the backs of my Generals Tabs as well as the Waffen SS tabs.

I don't really know how to explain Burlap material except that here in the USA--burlap bags were made and used for transporting Apples, Potatos, etc as well as other items. It's not a cloth per se, but is a rough rugged material that is a tough material.

Feels very rough to your fingers when touching it.

I forgot to mention that Army Forestry Tabs--actually are of the Luftwaffe style tabs--meaning soliod color backing--no waffenfarbe color as branch color is the wool backing itself. I have two mint unused sets of Army Forestry--both have a light to dark gray color with silver oak Leaves as decoration. 3 Oaks for the Forestry rank equal to Sergeant which is called: Revoirforester. I forget what the officer rank is called but--I think the officer rank I have is equal to Oberleutnant--or Hauptmann--I forget which since it's been a few years since I last touched them.

 

*Bump* for people like me who were on holiday first time round !