How many Americans on the Forum support war with Iraq?

National duty is defined by the individual, surley therefore it is up to everyone to decide what they feel is best for their nation and enact their duty accordingly. As for how would we react? Well we would not be invading people left right and centre because of decade old grudges. I also wonder why a)we were not a target and b) how other nations would have reacted and whether Bush would be quite so willing to help us invade Iraq as we seem to help him.

 

Sorry Erich, but i find this American atitude rather amusing.

Its as though terrorisim is something new, that only started on Sept 11th. And that all of a sudden the world is an uncertain place.

This may be new to you guys, but it ain't to us. We were attacked by terrorists for 30 years. Try living with that.

We never invaded anyone. If we had invaded the nations that supported them, you and me would have been enemies for 30 years.

We did not react how Israel reacts. And your countries support for that nation is one of the problems.

And the war against Iraq has absoloutly nothing to do with the war on terrorisim, however mutch Powell trys to tell us other wise.

Terrorisim is not something new. But welcome to the club. It ain't pleasent, trust me.

 

Like Bish says, maybe we have not been kicked in the groin, but we have been repeatedly punched since the formation of the Fenian Brotherhood in New York in 1858 (which linked to the IRB and so became the IRA). Ok, our early reaction was rather like that of Isreal and so on but now we do not react similarly, we can not fight terrorism in the same way you do, we cant because of the human rights issues that are involved. As a history teacher of ours once said, Terrorism against the west did not start on September 11th, though for us it did start in America almost 2 canturies ago.

 

I posted this already but I do it again. An attack against Iraq (which IS going to happen) will be no more than an agression.

But if we talk about attacking North Korea, then all I can say is: "Go, USA, go!"

 

Definetly against, unless a Clear and present danger can be established....mind you I'm at the point that I don't believe a thing coming from the Whitehouse anymore, give us a break....sheesh, the spin from "Weapons of mass destruction" to "Al Queda supporter" was just a little to contrived for my liking.

I use to admire Powell, now I think of him as a puppet. Doc/PzGr/CrazyD have it right.

Sorry, my decidely Canadian opinion...

 

All people from all nations can kiss my big ole rear end.


Oh, wait, I'm sorry, that wasn't WW2 related...

 

Ahh, but the Free Fire zone knows no boundaries, WWII or otherwise!

I'm against the war, but I also know nothing can be done to prevent it. I guess we can just hope not too many people buy it when sh!t hit's the fan. But you won't catch me at any protests however.

I mean if Saddam has to be killed so I can continue to drive my SUV for the next 20 years, then so be it. Sad but true.

 

Actually, I think we're still far away from all end of politics and diplomacy on the NK issue. I wanna be damn sure that world politics did everything, repeat EVERYTHING, before young men and civilians are goin' to die and get crippled by the thousands.

But again, it so easy to shout for war as long as just other's sons and dauthers are dying.

Cheers,

 

Right on.

 

I'm for war in Iraq. In my opinion as well as many opinions of others Iraq is like Nazi Germany just before making an assult on Poland or Kuwait. Or wait that already happened, but our friends in U.N did not want to see Saddam dead.

 

I think its been started as they are attacking more and more sites--trying to destroy radar installations and AA Batteries.

Being that there is nothing any of us can do to stop what is happening and what will soon be happening, im going to support our troops 100% as well as our allies.

 

I have to agree with AndyW and Carl....
1) I'll support the war if everything possible has been done to try and figure things out.
2) If/When this war starts, I'll support the troops and allies.

I've never been "all for" the war...I'm not really looking forward to having to look at the list of names on a future monument....

Oh, yeah...I've been accepted into the service. I start basic training at the end of April and then go into Soldier's Qualifications around the beginig of June. Wish me luck!

IL DUCE

 

Erich,
The last time we chatted you mentioned Iraqi drones filled with nerve agent flying around the country.
Such a comment indicates that your understanding of this is just as speculative as mine--probably more so.
Our explanations in the world forum have been piss poor. Powell's latest speech being a monumental blunder.
I'm actually surprised at just how shallow our "hard" evidence is. The photos I've seen show nothing and our main argument is still based on those stupid aluminum tubes. The story of the gassed Kurds has always been thin (it happened during a battle and the Iranians may just as well have done it. In any case, we never saw or photographed any gassed Kurds: escaping Kurds supposedly told the Turks, who then told us... supposedly.)
So, all we've really got are these wild rumors of suitcase nukes, germ-drones, midget subs, etc.
Of course there's the specious Iraq-Rogue Nation-Bin Laden-911 connection, but the administration hasn't approached that head-on.
The only reason for this is that we're not going in.
Hussein will get a billion dollars and several mansions around the world to live in. He'll disappear and the "friendly" regime will take over. Happy Days
That's the only plausible outcome here.
We would have invaded a long, long time ago if we were serious about it. But, instead, we drag it through the court of world public opinion, give pompous and foolish explanations, salt the press with stories of "Condition Orange" and possible plots to assassinate Hussein, terrorist "chatter," bin Laden wanting to commit suicide, Hussein takes Viagra, it's all completely ridiculous.
This has been going on for a year and a half now!
All we have to do is stall for a few more weeks and it will be too hot for us to use our Bio combat suits (we emphasize this at regular intervals; it's our built-in excuse to call the whole thing off.)

 

Well said Knight ! I was watching the news yesterday and even the UK is starting to say "put up or shut up". If Bush wants a war then he should do it and forget about world opinion because it just is not there.
I am not a fan of Hussan or the UN but the way the Bush people are trying to get others on the war wagon is embarrasing. Example, Turkey. Give me enough cash and I will be your friend.

 

The govmnt's definitely not telling us the truth.
Consolidation of regional power and the creation of a Mid East Economic Community a la NWO is most likely the plan.
Even if the war were going to take place (and right now, that seems very unlikely,) where's the honor in such a conflict? The Iraqis have barely any defences against our high-technology. We'll paste them with bombs--for weeks--because the one thing we're REALLY afraid of, is having to meet their soldiers on-on-one. Better to kill thousands of civilians to get a few soldiers than risk any type of land conflict.
Shameful. We have the most cowardly military in the world.

 

I heared bush say something really worrying today when talking about Iraq, he said something like 'People said that Germany and Japan could not support democracy, they were wrong, people who say Iraq can not support democracy are wrong too'. I find this worrying, he seems to forget that it too the deaths of millions of men, women and children as well as the flattening of half a continent and the dropping of nuclear weapons followed by the division of Germany, casting of both nations into economic dissaray and poverty and the destruction of the Japanese belief system to achieve democracy in Germany and Japan in 50 years without going through all the stages other nations went through. And people wonder why Muslims are worried...

 

Rent Lawrence of Arabia sometime for a colorful example of how we have treated these people like crap for many years.

 

Il Dunce:
How long is your SR and Basic training?

 

The fact of the matter is that US wants to help Iraq not colonize it. It is not Romantic Period, people got to understand that. We are not like France, who colozines Vietnam and then got US in to it.

"When Saddam Hussein grew up, he did so in the shadow of a giant portrait that hung on the wall of his father's house, a portrait of the face of a man his father adored above every other political leader. It was the face of Adolph Hitler" Jan Willem van der Hoeven

 

I thought Saddam modeled himself after Stalin and his ways???? I mean, he even has the mustache!

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IL DUCE