Russia and U.N

The UN was alway as strong as the unity amongst thier member nations was. During the cold war, it was a paper tiger caught between rock and the hard place - under this conditions it's pretty impressive what they achieved anyway (health, human rights, anti-povery programs etc.) between 1945-1990.

Now after the USSR broke up, the remaining world power USA was leading the way for the UN: as long as U.S. and the rest of the Worlds' interests were somewhat in sync, everything was fine. Now this situation changed as the UN finally refused herself to the U.S. blackmailing and preferred to rather commit political suicide, splitting the world in the U.S.A. and her satellites and all the others.

If not tremoundous diplomatic efforts are taken on all sides in the next months and years (and I doubt that the current U.S. admin is very skillfull in that), we can scrap all such achievements like the UN charta of human rights, the UNESCO health, food and medical programs, the World-wide programs to fight AIDS, povery, illiteration and child work.

International law and jurisprudence and in the consequence, International Security, the World Bank system and many other international organisatzins who need consensus among their members will cease to work.

I just hope central Europe has enough nuclear, chemical and bacteriological firepower and the means to deliver them everywhere in the world to deter any outside nation to start the next "preventive" war on us.

Cheers,

[ 20. March 2003, 03:01 AM: Message edited by: AndyW ]

 

U.N had 12 years in Iraq to check for weapons. They got kicked out in 1998 and U.N. did not do anything. Then after 1441 they had four month and inspectors were finding weapons and again did not do anything.

Well, it is not the first time U.N. failed.

In Cumbodia, 2 million people were killed by Vietnam and U.N. did not do anything.

In Yuogoslavia, for years fighting was going on and U.N. as well as E.U. did not do anything. It was United States who went in.

In Africa, millions were killed and again U.N. did not do anything.


American companies do more research on diseases then U.N.

[ 21. March 2003, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: VYACHESLAV ]

 

Glad someone finally sees it like it is, thanks "V"

 

The UN inspectors were not "kicked out" in 1998: they left. When America started talking about attacking Iraq, they were not allowed to return (big surprise.)

 

Knight, why don't you look here

http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/iraq/timeline3.htm

 

Russia sold it self to E.U.


They are against the war in Iraq and decided to join Germany and France.

The protestors took on the streets their favorite product that the motherland could offer, a bottle of Vodka.

Russian news web sites also blame Bush for everything. To start of PRAVDA accuses U.S. of being MURDERERS!!, when in fact the only people that died were Coalition forces members.

Russia asks UN to start investigation into legality of Iraq operation


Russia, together with states disagreeing with what Washington is doing in Iraq, has asked the United Nations judicial services to determine the actions of the United States and Britain in Iraq, Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov has said on Friday. He was answering questions from deputies after his speech in the State Duma. "The United Nations has resolutions giving assessments to these or those actions," he said. Assessments of concrete actions should be given by the United Nations Security Council and not by separate states, Igor Ivanov pointed out. Asked by KPRF leader Gennady Zyuganov what he personally thinks of the American-British operation in Iraq, Igor Ivanov called it "an unlawful action with no underlying legal grounds". In his opinion, it is important that assessment of the use of force by Washington and London "pass through the juridical services of the United Nations". This will give "strong arguments" to those opposing the action, he said. //RIA-Novosti



Iraqi leaders praise Putin's stand in current conflict

The Iraqi leadership highly praises Russian President Vladimir Putin's statement concerning the situation around Iraq, Iraqi Ambassador Abbas Khalaf disclosed on Friday to journalists. The Russian president's statement proved once again that "Russia and its people always support justice, and those who believe that Russia has lost its position in the world are wrong," the ambassador stressed. //RIA-Novosti

[ 21. March 2003, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: VYACHESLAV ]

 

OK, I make this short:

Again, the UN is not a "nation" or a independent "state", it's an organization of nations who are acting united. The U.S.A. is the economically and military strongest nation in this organization. If the UN failed, the U.S.A. had failed, too.

Wrong. The stone-age communist Khmer Rouge movement killed 2.4+ million during their terror reign, including ethnic Vietnamese. The killing stopped as the Communist (!) Vietnam Army marched into Cambodia. The emerge of the Khmer Rouge is caused to the instabilization of Cambodia caused by the U.S. undeclared war on Cambodian soil.

Again, wrong. It was the NATO acting under U.N. resolution 724. There are still IFOR troops securing peace in Yugoslavia.

At least the U.N. tried it in Somalia and failed. They also failed miserably in Rwanda, but the Jan. 11 warning of a uprising genocide was also sent to the U.S. admin within the UN. We all have bloddy hands.

Fine, so I'm sure they will also give away medicine for a fair prize and not go to the FTAA to stop Brazil for giving away Anti-AIDS medicine for free? Last I've heard it was different. Not that there is much difference between European and American corporations in this. Money is stronger than humanity or moral.

Ya know, some of those millions AIDS-suffering niggas just can't spent $540 per year for buying an Anti-AIDS-medicine.

"Too, bad", says the shareholder.

Cheers,

[ 23. March 2003, 07:02 AM: Message edited by: AndyW ]

 

Again, the UN is not a "nation" or a independent "state", it's an organization of nations who are acting united. The U.S.A. is the economically and military strongest nation in this organization. If the UN failed, the U.S.A. had failed, too.

Wrong. The stone-age communist Khmer Rouge movement killed 2.4+ million during their terror reign, including ethnic Vietnamese. The killing stopped as the Communist (!) Vietnam Army marched into Cambodia. The emerge of the Khmer Rouge is caused to the instabilization of Cambodia caused by the U.S. undeclared war on Cambodian soil.

How is this wrong? Communists killed these people and the media and the world knew about it.

Again, wrong. It was the NATO acting under U.N. resolution 724. There are still IFOR troops securing peace in Yugoslavia.

Yeah, the mighty Belgium Army was there when the ethnic killing started. Please, it started in 1990 and thanks to U.S ended in 1998. French did not want this to end.

At least the U.N. tried it in Somalia and failed. They also failed miserably in Rwanda, but the Jan. 11 warning of a uprising genocide was also sent to the U.S. admin within the UN. We all have bloddy hands.

They tried? It was American Rangers and Delta Units that tried. U.N. never tries.

Fine, so I'm sure they will also give away medicine for a fair prize and not go to the FTAA to stop Brazil for giving away Anti-AIDS medicine for free? Last I've heard it was different. Not that there is much difference between European and American corporations in this. Money is stronger than humanity or moral.

Ya know, some of those millions AIDS-suffering niggas just can't spent $540 per year for buying an Anti-AIDS-medicine.

"Too, bad", says the shareholder.

Cheers, </font>[/QUOTE]Money is eveything

 

Andy--the U.N is an overrated and completely usless and outdated organization, I hope that this country leaves the un.

 

Now that's an opinion that worries me.

Best regards/ Daniel

 

U.N. wants to use a resolution three hundred something on U.S.

Good luck.

The same resolution was used on USSSR during the 50's and they ignored it.

HA HA HA

 

Alright V-Slav, these statements your giving sound like there coming from Fox news or the national inquirer.

No the USA is the reason that didnt end early, Europeans wanted to invade, but USA wouldnt have it, and slowly it lead to an air war. (Atleast Belgum had the balls to go there).

What did the USA do, NOTHING, so you blame it on UN, what country was the first to leave in Somolia? USA. Why, you tell me?

US invaded Cambodia, what did UN do. also read what Andy said.
USA Created Saddam, USA crated Bin Laden. Also about Irish terrorist blowing up things for no reason, Im surprised to hear an American say that, how would you feel if Stefan said the same about Al-Quatia?

 

No the USA is the reason that didnt end early, Europeans wanted to invade, but USA wouldnt have it, and slowly it lead to an air war. (Atleast Belgum had the balls to go there).

What did the USA do, NOTHING, so you blame it on UN, what country was the first to leave in Somolia? USA. Why, you tell me?

US invaded Cambodia, what did UN do. also read what Andy said.
USA Created Saddam, USA crated Bin Laden. Also about Irish terrorist blowing up things for no reason, Im surprised to hear an American say that, how would you feel if Stefan said the same about Al-Quatia? </font>[/QUOTE]EU never wanted to invade Yugoslavia because it would not help its business, plaus it did not bother them.

USA left because of the Somolians tangled U.S. troops bodies on TV. The U.N is still there and they don't do anything.


Guess what? Soviets created Norht Korea and France made Saddam rich and ready to get first nuke before the Israeli forces destroyed the nuke factory.

People who help the IRA are Irish Americans. These people were poor all their lives. It's wrong what they're doing, but this goes back centuries. The fact is, even Scottish hated English and the king.