Just a little question here...

What the Heck is the W in George W. Bush? I've been trying to remember it the entire day and I just can't remember...

 

Walter I think

 

William?

 

Walter I would say....Don;t quote me though...

 

"Whiskey?" I know he had an alcohol problem up to his 40th birthday or something and turned into an absolutist....

Anyway, I think it´s the same as his father´s, Walker...

http://gi.grolier.com/presidents/ea/bios/43pgwb.html

Bush, George Walker (1946-)

 

An absolutist?

guess he has to change the W to a V for Vodka, then...

 

My sunday newspaper wrote an article on how the heck George managed to made it to YALE University!

And I thought "my" German politicians aren't the brightest lights on the planet! Well, they have strong competition in the "Who can run a country with lowest possible IQ!"-game

Cheers,

 

G.H.W.B==== GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH.

 

He was also an F-102 pilot in the Texas Air National Guard at Ellington Air Force Base near Houston during the Viet Nam war. It was rumored George Sr. got him that job so he would not have to go to the war.

 

I don´t know how sensible Mr W is with the alcohol but during his visit to Europe a while back he had a security man to check for what he was served for dinners etc. For example he did not eat a cake which had some rhum in it...No alcohol allowed...

 

Maybe he was afraid that the same thing might happen with the cake than what happened with the coockie.

 

AndyW - yeah i read somewere that his iq was 91. That is worry that he control the most powerful country in the world and his iq is lower than the average american.

 

Like all things on the net I would take some of the following with a piece of salt. But the threads been started..

Carl dont shoot me im only the piano player...

http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm

 

Not to worry--I can't fire through a computer screen

Some stats on Bush jr.

He went to Yale---Passed his Business Degree--so it's an impossibility that Bush is as low on the I.Q scale as you WISH he was at.

If Bush was as dumb as some people like to dream that he is---then how come he is a multi-multi-multi millionnaire?

He once owned the Rangers Baseball Team. Couldn't have been able to get the money for it if he was stupid.

Owned other businesses too--one couldn't do as well as he if one were a moron.

Smae thing goes for politics. If he were a stupid fellow--he would NOT be president.

As for his not drinking alcoholic drinks--it's a preference of his to NOT drink spirits. Also--he is a devout church-goer and is VERY religious. One can't knock a man for that....can one?

 

Carl, of course everyone can. The guy is straight so that has to be wrong in this day and age ......

~E

 

Carl, give me a big enough stick and I will knock a man for anything. I do not see how being rich means that you can't be stupid, I mean he hardly started at a disadvantage. Stupid men have succeeded in politics before, all it takes is money. As for the IQ thing, IQ tests mean nothing other than that you are good at the tests. Example, a mate of mine got a score of 142, despite being a bit of a twit. It just shows that certain parts of your minda are better developed than others.

 

Yep--I agree with the meaning of what ya said. Apparently cause someone ain't a pot-smoking drunk--who is also a lazy liar--I guess that that is bad in todays society.

They just can't get it that Bush is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY better than their boot-licking clinton was/is.

 

I know nothing of the man so Ill keep out of this, apart from to state some simplistic generlised answers to your questions.

There are many explanations on the net (net being what it is) that explain in detail or the writers detail the way the degree was forthcoming. I offer no validity. I just dont know the truth.

As to being a multi millionare, so is Prince Charles over here Carl, it runs in the family in lots of cases. The Bush family fortune has come from many areas. One now that your raise it yourself actually is on topic for the ww2 forums.
We could try looking into the business dealings of his grandfather before and during ww2. I offer no comment apart from pointing to those dealings.

Owning the Rangers...Only rangers sports team I know of are in Glasgow, and they play soccer or a form of it only known to mad Scotsmen. But again I dont know where Bushes personal fortune comes from or even what he is worth. I take it though the family fortune is just that, a family fortune.

Owned other businesses too? I again dont know of any he owned, but owning a business is something anyone can do, wheter they are successful at it is another thing. 2 thirds of all businesses set up in UK fail in the first year. The directors and owners usually move on to set up other firms.

What businesses out of interest has The president owned? Serious question, I dont honestly know? Did any fail, were the business brought as a going concern or start from the pavement upwards?

To be leader of a political party and then to lead it into government is not in itself proof on any credibiltiy scale, look around the world for examples..I can quote you many Uk prime ministers who have proved themselves through own actions to be little more than fools.

But to take that one comment forward, if all it takes to prove credibilty and leadership and the cant be a stupid fellow, then why do you take excepton to President and commmander in chief Clinton on so many occasions Carl?

Drinking? Thats his choice...If as has been reported he is an alcoholic, no insult on my part, an alcohoic is always an alcoholic that doesnt mean an alccoholic is a drunk, an alcoholic can be a reformed drinker, in which case anyone critisising the man for making sure there is no alcohol in cakes etc as in one post above is just plain wrong to critisise.
Anyone who can beat the disease becuase it is a disease, is ok in my book.

God...Oh no Carl..God and politics in the same post...and on a war board...

At end of the day the guys a man like all men.
With strenghs and weaknesses like all men.

I will ask one more thing though..Do you have any information on his service record? Believe may have served in Vietnam era? Of right age?

 

Good point Urgh, when talking about his businesses it is worth remembering that whilst he may have owned them, he may not have made them a success. That is what boards are for. A case that would be relivant to this board would be Haljmar Schact and the 1936 Economic myrical that was due to his sound economic policy and not due to Hitler, despite the latter being the ruler of the country. I hear the alcoholism thing is genuine, what I mean is, he was an alcoholic but he overcame his problem and now will not touch the stuff because he knows it may start more problems. I agree with Urgh on this one, he has had the guts to fight a problem and to keep the cause of the problem at arms length. Rather like if you get bitten by a dog, after that you are hardly going to run around petting them whenever you see them.

 

Hi Urgh--I agree with many of your statements but--i'll not go through each one as it isnt needed.

The Sports team Bush Jr owned is a Baseball Team Called the Texas Rangers--or simple--the rangers as they are known here in CC,TX.

AS for looking into business dealings of his grandfather--I know absolutely ZILCH on that and have no interest to learn anything about his dealings.

Buch Jr is much wealthier than bush Sr. Jr did not get his wealth from his dad--or with his dad's help--he did it all on his own.

I do not know if any of their wealth comes from sources outside the USA or not--so I cannot reply on that either.

Your correct--business is somthing anyone can do. I had one of my own for several years. I qiut it because I felt it was time to move onto something else and--my father was very ill and I had to help out with his contracting business.

I once employed 8 men--I was 17 yrs old at that time. They were full-time employees and made enough to pay bills and live decently. The smae thing happens here with new businesses as it does in the UK--meaning many fail in their first year here as well.

I had mine for 12 years--and I got tired of the daily pressures of having it and I had never had enough time to take a few days off--if I wanted to. I worked about 8 years--before I managed to go two days without having to do any work. It took 2 more years before I could take a week off.

As for Bush jrs other businesses--I don't know what he did except dabble in oil and other things. I know he sold off his businesses so he could semi-retire. Other than that--I just do not know.

Believe it or not--I FULLY agree with you on leaders and the credibility scale.

I could go all day on examples on clinton but will leave it at this:
It lied under oath.
It allowed the chinese to steal national security technology etc.
It "fooled around" having sex in the Oval Office--completely lying under oath about this even though everybody KNEW he was lying. This jerk should have been Impeached.
I also find it VERY strange that not less than 27 close members in the clinton administration--died while a part of it. Many were mysterious "suicides" and "accidents."
It burned the American flag in Red Square when IT was a student in the 1960's during the Vietnam War.

Bush Jr--did nothing like what this scumbag did.