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Discussion in 'Free Fire Zone' started by jpatterson, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. jpatterson

    jpatterson Member

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    It kills me what some World leaders say about conflicts in other areas.

    Example: Russia sharply criticized Israel's onslaught, now in its ninth day, sparked when Hezbollah militants captured two Israeli soldiers. Moscow said Israel's actions have gone "far beyond the boundaries of an anti-terrorist operation."

    I wonder what Putin would say if the Latvians started lobbing rockets into Russia.

    Later
     
  2. Stevin

    Stevin Ace

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    or, lets say, "for arguments sake" Chechnians starting bombing appartment buildings in Russia proper....I mean, how many years are the Russians in Chechnia since they started doing that????

    Can we talk??? [​IMG]

    I cracked up when I heard some spokesman for hezbollah say on Larry King Live that "Hezbollah was a peaceful movement and that they had done nothing to warrant this Israeli onslaught". It was an unprovoked action from the Israeli side. "Denail" is not just an river in Egypt....
     
  3. jpatterson

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    Yeah Stevin, exactly. Sometimes I wonder how these people can keep a straight face when they say things.

    As far as the Hezbollah spokesman is concerned, he forgot to add that however it started, the way it's playing out is EXACTLY what they hoped for. Civilians be damned.

    Also, I find it quite interesting how Lebonon is 39% Christian. Wonder what those folks think of Hezbollah, and Syria, and Iran, etc.....

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  4. Stevin

    Stevin Ace

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    I know, it is hard to find someone with some sense of perspective around there...Then again, mine or "our" persepctive is just not their perspective...And witjout at least understanding (I am not saying agreeing with) the other side's perspective, no solution is going to work itself out.

    It is a pity that the Lebanese gov. is not strong enough to keep tabs on Hezbollah or was able to keep their part of the deal that was brokered years back (The Leb. army taking positions in Southern Libanon to do just that; keep an "eye" on Hezbollah)...and in comes Syria who apparently can...It is such a complex situation. Everybody knows this of course, but in last years Pol. Science class on Conflict resolution we got an indepth look into the matter by some negotiator and it really is staggering the problems negotiators are faced with....Interesting, but very difficult too...
     
  5. Erich

    Erich Alte Hase

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    you are both quite correct but again let's face it we see from our western eyes only and they are eastern and have different principles. something I had a very hard time dealing with when I was over there. Just could not offer reason to either side.

    Hezballoh wants to take it to the streets of Jerusalem if it can with Syrian/Iranian backing

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  6. MARNE

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    Alright, I gonna put in my two cents....I am an American and a Southron by God. Born and raised in probably the most militaristic section of the U.S. the SOUTH!

    I agree with everything said, the east does have a totally different persective than that of the west. However, if you remember the Olympics and the Black Tuesday terrorist organization....the Israeli's took the fight to their doorstep and cut down every memeber till they got every one of the individuals involved.

    I see this as the same thing and if I were Israel I'd of done gone in cleaned house with Hezbollah. In my opinion the so-called "invasion" should have already happened. If the Israeli's go in they need to do it quick and fast as humanly possible thats going to be the only way to do it to spare the Lebanese people of a long drawn out conflict. They shouldn't occupy the Lebanese once the job is done, the job is done just make sure you crost the "T"s and dot the "I"s. Keep it short and sweet.

    Hezbollah owns 23% of the Lebanese Gov't. the Lebanese shouldn't have allowed that. To that extent that is their fault but, the thing is, is that the Lebanese need to ally themselves along with the Israeli's and help them clean and weed Hezbollah out into the open where it can be destroyed, slowly and piece by piece.

    Just my $0.02...

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  7. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    I just find it interesting that 60 years after 'Dresden' and all the condemnation which has followed, we sit here every evening watching the news of a 'military conflict' which seems to target a civilian population and infrastructure, with up to a third of the victims being children.

    Not much progress in human affairs there, then.
     
  8. TA152

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    Erich has a good point about the different principles and standards in the middle east. The US and EU countries want to solve things using their standards and it does not work.

    If people voluntarily become human bombs for the "cause", then that should be a tip off to the world leaders that they are dealing with different standards and need to try different tactics.

    The US has almost always pushed their standards on the countries it tries to "help" and more often than not it fails. [​IMG] Good intentions, but bad results.
     
  9. jpatterson

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    Would it be incorrect to say that yes, the Lebonese (Hezbollah) are going to think radically different than Diplomats from the West, but the Israelis are really not "Eastern" thinkers, more Western (European)?

    Later
     
  10. Richard

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    The Lebanese government has bought this situation on themselves, it’s about time they stood up against Hezbollah and wake up and start to do something about them before the situation gets out of control again.
     
  11. TheRedBaron

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    Well perhaps the Isreali's should take a step back... They are rather over doing it.

    Plus flattening a UN compound into the bargain... AFTER being warned six times by Irish Army observers that they were shelling it they hit it with a 'precision guided missile'...

    Personally... I would just let them all get on with it and kill each other. That would sort it out once and for all.
     
  12. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Especially when these people have a tendency to hide among the civilian population on purpose to impress the media sufficiently.

    I remember of a mortar attack on the Sarajevo market by the Serbs, killing quite a few Muslim Bosnians civilians, ladies in the market. After a few years it was found that the mortars had been fired by the Bosnian faction entirely on purpose to create a photo op...
     
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    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    Maybe that's it...we should have bombed Belfast flat.
     
  14. TheRedBaron

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    Bombing Belfast flat would only improve the place...
     

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