Statement from the Vatican Listen up you Islamic dogs I was a member of the Hitler Youth and if you think you can push me around the boys and I will sort you out with a hot poker up the backside. =============================================== Now that’s a statement.
Well, at least the Danes are now "satisfied" they are not in the hot seat anymore.... Just gotta wonder why on earth did the Pope go and say anything like that even if it was a quote!
This issue is a bunch of bullsh!t. He is silent because he has the right to be, as does anyone if they do nothing wrong. What bothers me here is that so many people think the Pope said these bad things about the Muslims, and absolutely no one actually read his speech. I just finished reading the speech he gave, and he says nothing negative about the Muslim faith. In it Pope Benendict quotes a discussion between a Muslim scholar and a Catholic scholar that occured hundreds of years ago. Both men said negative things about each others religion, and the Pope quotes both men. Just to clarify; the Pope has not apologized for his comments, he stated he was sorry for the unfortunate response to his words. The only thing that could be construed as negative that the Pope actually said was that there were two strains of Islam; one violent and one not violent. Something I think most people would agree on. Certainly the Somali muslims that murdered an Italian nun in response to the Pope's misconstrued words would agree as well. For anyone interested in reading the speech before making up their mind, here it is: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1702111/posts Please think before you make an opinion. By the way, just is case you are wondering ,I'm not catholic, I'm an atheist. Events like this shaped my belief system.
thanks for the speech Blazkowicz. I think that the muslim comunity finally managed to p*ss the whole world off!! I am not a racist nor do I hate Muslims and obviously dont think that all muslims bad. Infact Islam is a peacefull and loving religion, but why is it that the worlds major problems come from the Middle East?? anyone, anyone?? I am keeping a eye on the worlds reaction and watching how we are slowly progressing towards a military confrontation in the Middle East. Maybe not now nor in a year but it will happen and it will be big, and it will be MIddle East
I'm with Blazkowicz. The quoting of an obscure 14th. century text is inconsequential, the truly alarming aspect has been the reaction to such an academic discussion. I would expect Extremists to sieze and twist such an 'issue' but the media also seems to have got itself into a hissy-fit about very little too. Cheers, Adam.
do you think there might be an assasination plot now for the Pope ? It would not be beyond the Muslim 'gangs' minds. We are all corrup in their eyes anyway. who says but Muslims that their religion is of peace Slon ? the proof of that is in their own actions..........and I have already expressed my personal opinion due to working with these folk for many years
Indeed there is Erich: Somali cleric calls for pope's death These fanatics can't ever read english and they are condmening him for something they were told he might have said. Fanatics scare me.
Erich I have to agree. The Middle East is lagging the civilized world by at least 7 centuries. They are still living in a world where the crusades exist, that just isnt the case anymore. Nothing good can come of this!
However there is a minority that disagrees with these extremist, they however live either in the U.S. or Europe
unfortunately Slon the minority sadly can be best used by the bad guys. One, for sympathy sakes, another to easily slip pathetic extremists views internally into Euro/US thinking as acceptance, the old slide of hand trick, and by the way I just planted a bomb in the building next door but am sure you won't mind. Yes I do have a beware attitude, we know for a fact the Islamic believers as minorities that want to curb their cousins bad boy attitudes due to the fact they live in the US as example are going to feel our "heat" ~ that was a mouthful
Uh, Blaskowicz, I wasn't giving an opinion. I was more or less just thinking out loud. He hadn't responded to any of the comments from the Muslim world for a few days. Meanwhile, nuns are being shot in the back in Somalia and Churches are being burned. All the while I was thinking, "don't apologize, you said nothing wrong". But still, with his stable of Catholic braniacs one would think that they could come up with something a little quicker to help diffuse the situation, even make the nutbars (Iranians) look bad. Later
Sorry jpatterson, I'm sure I came of a little harsh. I wasn't trying to get anyone's goat, well maybe just the fanatic muslim goat! I guess my point is that even if someone here misunderstands something, they don't respond by killing poeple, but fanatics do. My "Please think before you make an opinion." statement was directed toward those same fanatics, not you. No offense was intended, I just get a little irritable when I haven't had my coffee.
How could anyone with a bit of a brain take back a statement which says religion and violence don't mix, that violence is irrational and true faith is not? I am very glad the Holy Father, since day one in the See of Saint Peter, has taken a stronger stance on Islam: of dialogue and tolerance, which had to be mutual nonetheless. These extremists, terrorists and fanatics are, as always, damned ignorants. Not only (of course not!) they did not read the Pope's lecture nor did they follow his visit to Bavaria and the rest of his speeches. They also attacked an Anglican and an Orthodox churches... Yes, they're Catholic churches indeed, but they don't have anything to do with the Pope... But I guess it is asking too much of these people. Had they read the text, which is an outstanding piece of great theological intelligence, they would have got that the message was intended for the secularised West, whose scientific vanity has renounced to human trascendence and the concept of subjective Truth. The Holy Father, in fact, says that this is one of the things that prevent full inter-religious dialogue: Muslims are offended by the Western totalitarian concept of science, which leaves no room to God. In that context, he spoke of the God that is Logos, the creating intelligence (the other side of the coin of the God Caritas, Love). Again, how can a faith which condones violence be compatible with a God that is true Logos and true Caritas?
