Welcome to the WWII Forums! Log in or Sign up to interact with the community.

makes of ww2 british planes that not even 1 remains

Discussion in 'WWII General' started by hatch, Nov 9, 2003.

Page 3 of 4
  1. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2003
    Messages:
    21,167
    Likes Received:
    3,274
    Location:
    Stirling, Scotland
    Hoppy,

    Actually, I did it in Economic & Social History at University last year.
    Still would like to know your "sources" to compare them with what I studied.
    Regards,
    Gordon
     
    GRW, Nov 13, 2003
    #41
  2. Hoppy

    Hoppy Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2003
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    In which case, you would know the facts.
    The sources i have used over the years are as stated previously. The Lend-lease situation is by no means a secret. In all the years that i have researched various warfare subjects (mainly aviation) I have been very lucky to have had access to various files, books, publications etc.
    9 times out of 10, if you approach various establishments such as the IWM, they are only too willing to help. the material that they have available is astounding. its a pity much more cannot be displayed due to a lack of space.
    So, all im saying is, it may come as a surprise to you about the L-L situation, but theres nothing 'underhand' about it, okay, it may seem a little ruthless but so were the times. The one thing i have learned is always keep an open mind, that way you can never stop learning.
    If it would be of any help to you, i would be only too happy to direct you to further sources and areas of information.

    Hoppy
     
    Hoppy, Nov 13, 2003
    #42
  3. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2003
    Messages:
    21,167
    Likes Received:
    3,274
    Location:
    Stirling, Scotland
    Hoppy,
    Considering what you said was the complete OPPOSITE of what we were taught last year, I don't have much faith in your "sources"!
    Anyway, this is damn all to do with the topic.
    Gordon
     
    GRW, Nov 13, 2003
    #43
  4. Hoppy

    Hoppy Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2003
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well, in which case it is not YOUR fault if that is what you have been taught. However, i consider the Imperial War Museum to be a Fairly good source in matters of WW2... ;)
    If i can contact them tomorrow, i will try and get them to e-mail me some material.
    A simple web-search on L-L debt will bring up some connections.
    Its a shame that you are being taught and not being given the facts. As i said earlier, its no secret, just not shouted about.
     
    Hoppy, Nov 13, 2003
    #44
  5. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2003
    Messages:
    21,167
    Likes Received:
    3,274
    Location:
    Stirling, Scotland
    I knew the facts BEFORE I went to uni, actually.
    Just got them confirmed.
    Gordon
     
    GRW, Nov 13, 2003
    #45
  6. Hoppy

    Hoppy Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2003
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well, in which case you have obviously made up your mind. good luck !
     
    Hoppy, Nov 13, 2003
    #46
  7. Hoppy

    Hoppy Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2003
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Anyway, back to reality.. :rolleyes:
    I dont think that there are any twin engine whirlwinds left either.
    Or Brigands... :(
     
    Hoppy, Nov 13, 2003
    #47
  8. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2002
    Messages:
    13,578
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Location:
    London, England.
    Agree it's a shame about the Whirlwind but then, only 116 were built in the first place.

    The Bristol Brigand was designed as a replacement for the Beaufighter and was not deployed until 1949 ; 156 were built. For the same reason I didn't mention the amazing DH Hornet - it didn't enter service until post-WWII and they were nearly all chopped up or burnt; there's just a pair of wings left at the Mosquito Museum... :(
     
    Martin Bull, Nov 14, 2003
    #48
  9. Hoppy

    Hoppy Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2003
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    There were so many post-war aircraft that were developed from WW2 types, using the experience and knowledge that had been learned in battle.
    I wonder where JET engine development would have been in 1945, if there hadn't been a war...???
    Martin, i dont recall seeing a Typhoon anywhere.
    Is there one ?? :confused:
     
    Hoppy, Nov 14, 2003
    #49
  10. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2002
    Messages:
    13,578
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Location:
    London, England.
    There is !!

    The world's sole surviving, complete and original Typhoon can be seen at the RAF Museum, Hendon and is one of my favourite exhibits anywhere.... :D
     
    Martin Bull, Nov 14, 2003
    #50
  11. Stevin

    Stevin Ace

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2002
    Messages:
    2,883
    Likes Received:
    26
    Yes, and we are anticipating its 'flyby' in a few days, Martin...
     
    Stevin, Nov 14, 2003
    #51
  12. Hoppy

    Hoppy Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2003
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well, at least theres one, Martin !! I have not visited Hendon for several years, so i would imagine that the collection has increased.
    Have they found a turret for the wellington ??!!!
     
    Hoppy, Nov 14, 2003
    #52
  13. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2002
    Messages:
    13,578
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Location:
    London, England.
    Yes - the Wellington's complete. The museum closes soon to reopen with the new hall on December 18th ( so I can nip up the road to view the Me-262 ! :cool: ).

    Yes Stevin - at the same time the Typhoon will be readied for my Amsterdam re-enactment ( BTW, what was your address again ?.... :D [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] )
     
    Martin Bull, Nov 14, 2003
    #53
  14. hatch

    hatch Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2003
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    0
    ONLY ONE TYPHOON IN THE WORLD ????... WHAT ABOUT THE TEMPEST .DID THEY FAIR ANY BETTER ????
     
    hatch, Dec 8, 2003
    #54
  15. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2002
    Messages:
    13,578
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Location:
    London, England.
    Only marginally, I'm afraid :(

    There are in fact 8 Tempests left in various stages of restoration, but only two of these are Napier-Sabre-engined.

    These are NV778 which is - you guessed it - on display at Hendon ( :cool: ) , and EJ963 which is under restoration 'to fly' in England for Kermit Weeks.

    Every enthusiast is hoping that this aircraft will make some UK flights when it's finished so that we can at least hear what a Sabre sounds like. But latest rumours from 'somewhere in England' suggest that the restoration team are having very serious problems finding any compatible parts at all for the engine... :(
     
    Martin Bull, Dec 9, 2003
    #55
  16. Popski

    Popski Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2001
    Messages:
    308
    Likes Received:
    3
    G'day

    Last weekend on the BBC saw the film "633 squadron" of 1964 in wich they wrecked a few Mosquitos. All wrecked planes looked in good flying condition. How could they do this#%@#$%^. Are there any of these planes left??

    Cheers POP
     
    Popski, Dec 9, 2003
    #56
  17. Alpha_Cluster

    Alpha_Cluster Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2003
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Man there is is a post for that just a few posts lower!
     
    Alpha_Cluster, Dec 9, 2003
    #57
  18. Popski

    Popski Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2001
    Messages:
    308
    Likes Received:
    3
    Missed it

    Thanks Alph
     
    Popski, Dec 9, 2003
    #58
  19. Popski

    Popski Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2001
    Messages:
    308
    Likes Received:
    3
    Missed it

    Thanks Alph :D
     
    Popski, Dec 9, 2003
    #59
  20. Sami

    Sami Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2001
    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    0
    "There seems to be only three in the whole world. One in in Britain, second in Australia - and third in a hangar in central Finland, locked away from the general public. The ladybird in question is "BL-200", a Blenheim Mk. IV, "Vl/3", the last Blenheim built in Finland."
    http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/photoreports/blenheim2001/

    Cheers,
    Sami
     
    Sami, Dec 10, 2003
    #60
Page 3 of 4

Share This Page