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German government and CIA shielded Eichmann

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  1. Kai-Petri

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    Postwar German government and CIA shielded Adolf Eichmann

    3 July 2006

    Newly released files show Postwar German government and CIA shielded Adolf Eichmann

    The recent publication of some 27,000 pages of secret CIA documents has brought to light new details regarding the close ties between the political elite in post-war Germany and leading Nazis who survived the collapse of the Third Reich.

    The publication is a result of a 1999 US law, which had been opposed by the CIA, that regulates the release of US government documents concerning German and Japanese war crimes. The documents on Japan are to be made accessible to researchers this summer.

    The historian Timothy Naftali from the University of Virginia, who has seen the documents, discovered that the West German government under Konrad Adenauer had known the secret whereabouts of Adolf Eichmann since at least 1958 and had covered this up. The CIA had also shielded the Nazi mass murderer from prosecution.

    The documents published by the CIA make clear that both the German and American governments had shielded Eichmann for a long time in order to protect the Nazi elements whom they were deploying against the Soviet Union in the “Cold War.”

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    ANyone surprised really??
     
  2. Richard

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    I am reading book on Eichmann at the moment, nice find find Kai.
     
  3. PzJgr

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    That does not surprise me. I am sure the CIA funneled out more nazi criminals than did ODESSA.
     
  4. Sloniksp

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    Lets shield the good old Nazi's to in order to fight the EVIL Communists.....


    DESPICABLE
     
  5. Kai-Petri

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    The big question is about Müller and Mengele next....
     
  6. Hawkerace

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    Why?
     
  7. Sloniksp

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    Why what?
     
  8. Col. Hessler

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    Only as despicable as supporting the Soviets to fight the Germans.
     
  9. White Flight

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    Appears to me the questions is “why” is “the big question is about Müller and Mengele next.” Or more direct, was the CIA involved in the failure to apprehend the Angel of Death and the Executor of the Final Solution. Correct me if I’m wrong Sir Kai.
     
  10. Sloniksp

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    Interesting how you stated " Soviets against the Germans" and not the "Russians against the Nazis"......

    The statement should have read the "Soviets against the Nazis" Europe chose the Nazis for obvious reasons. Do you disagree with the decision? Surely making enemies with both Hitler and Stalin would have sealed Europes fate.

    Also keep in mind that Europe had fought Germany less then 25 years earlier with Russia as an ally in the firsd world war. The fact that Hitler showed his belligerence sealed his fate. Also making enemies with both Hitler and Stalin was out of the question for obvious reasons.

    Would you have rather sided with the Nazis then the Soviets?
     
  11. Col. Hessler

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    You know Slon I actually thought for a second if I should say Germans or Nazis. I didn't really put it that way on purpose and there is no hidden meaning behind the way I stated it.

    I'm no Nazi sympathizer if that's what you think. I would have rathered we didn't side with either nation. Way I see it is that it doesn't matter who wins, either way you are going to have a brutal and oppressive regime in power of a good chunk of Europe.
     
  12. White Flight

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    Curious, do you view the Soviets as an equal to the Nazis with all regard including crimes against humanity and equal in scaled efforts of oppression of it’s neighbors?
     
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    No harm done Col. I believe you ;)

    I just wanted to point that out as I have seen such statements here before and have always found them bizarre, something tells me you might understand why.

    I think you bring up a legitamate question, ( not intended towards Col. Hessler ) but to others, as there are some in this forum that very well do. I think this is might be because when one thinks of Communism, he/she will automatically think of Stalin, not the 5 leaders that came after.
     
  14. Col. Hessler

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    How can you compare two regimes as evil and brutal as the Soviets and the Nazis? Numbers alone are inadequate to compare these two totalitarian states. Some say Stalin killed as many as 60 million people, about six times as many people as Hitler killed. Although Stalin was in power longer and Russia is a larger country. And that doesn't even include the restriction of personal freedoms, jailing and torture of countless innocents, etc.
     
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    If the question is was Stalin an evil man? the answer is yes. However there is absolutely no proof or credible evidence that Stalin killed 60 million of his own people. Western historians for example claim the number is higher. Russian historians claim that 60 million deaths is preposterous. Do the Western historians know more about Russian history then Russians? Making such claims as these with no credible backing is the same thing as saying Area-51 has Aliens in it that help the U.S. build aircraft.
     
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    If you want to win the war, the answer is pretty obvious ;)
     
  17. Col. Hessler

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    Are you denying the fact that Stalin murdered his own people in cold blood? It is a fact. A known fact just as much as the Holocaust is a known fact. Some say Stalin killed 3 million, some say as many as 60 million. But the numbers don't matter. He was a ruthless and brutal dictator who starved, jailed, tortured, and slaughtered his own people. So was Hitler. So was Pol Pot. So was Ho Chi Minh, Mao Tse-Tung, and Idi Amin. So was Saddam Hussein. It's not a question of who was the worst dictator. They all were barbaric butchers.
     
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    Seems that you may have miss-read my post. I have not said such a thing. Yes it is well known that Stalin killed millions, but he did not kill more Russians then Hilter did. This is generally considered a Western Myth by Russian historians. Once again Col. Hess I do no deny that Stalin was and evil man, he absolutely was. But there is a big difference between 3 million and 60 million.

    I think we went off topic here
     
  19. Col. Hessler

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    It sounds like you are trying to say that while both Hitler and Stalin were evil, Stalin was the lesser of the two evils. I don't buy that. We can debate numbers all day. 3 Million is the absolute minimum estimate while 60 million is the maxium. Most historians estimate 15-20 million. Hitler killed approximately 11 million. Did Stalin kill more people than Hitler? I say he did. Does that make him more evil? Statistics can never measure the brutality of these two men or any other dictator. They are both the epitome of evil. Case closed.
     
  20. Za Rodinu

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    I agree. If it's not 3 million nor 60 million, then it's some number in between. No matter, in any case the scale of murder is appalling.

    Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Mao Tse-Tung, Idi Amin, barbaric butchers? Yes, among others in the XX Cent, XXI Cent. and others before.


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    By the way, while looking for something else entirely I sumbled upon this:
    My Journey through Famine-Stricken Russia, by Whiting Williams in 'Answers', February 24th, 1934.

    But aren't we digressing too far from the thread topic?
     

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