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Gunboats and Monitors

Discussion in 'Other Weapons' started by JCFalkenbergIII, Jul 12, 2008.

  1. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Why did the turret sit so tall? Was it the ammunition feed system?
     
  2. JCFalkenbergIII

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    I think that may be one of the reasons with such a small ship.
     
  3. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Maybe Tiornu could enlighten us :).
     
  4. Tiornu

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    These ships were designed with especially shallow draft: 13ft 6in in Roberts, as opposed to 34ft 10in in Vanguard. There are only two deck levels below the bottom edge of the barbette cylinder; one has the powder rooms, and one has the shell rooms.
    There's a superb book on the big-gun monitors called...Big Gun Monitors. It's written by Buxton, and a revised edition came out just a year ago.
     
  5. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Thanks Tiornu. I knew you would be able to provide some info. :)
     
  6. JCFalkenbergIII

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    HMS Erebus 1944. Heres a more front on of the Erebus

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  7. Tiornu

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    I found a great photo of a WWI big-gun monitor that shows the wildly exaggerated hull form:
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  8. Tiornu

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    Ah, I'm very pleased with myself. I figured out how to post a photo and everything.
    Isn't that crazy? Check it out. Depending on the ship's load level, those "spats" served as work space and docking area. The photo is from the old edition of Buxton's Big Gun Monitor.
     
  9. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Thanks Tiornu!!! Thats a great shot. Almost looks like it was squashed! LOL
     
  10. razin

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    So which ship is it? Abercrombie, Havelock, Reglan or Roberts.
     
  11. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Its the General Grant.

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    H . M . S . A B E R C R O M B I E


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  13. Tiornu

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    Nice shot of Abercrombie. Shows how plump she was.
     
  14. JCFalkenbergIII

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    [​IMG]

    Abercrombie again :).

    And the HMS Terror

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  15. razin

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    Don't always believe what you see!
     
  16. JCFalkenbergIII

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    I dunno why. Since that was the photo Tiornu mentioned. and the name on the back of the ship are the same. LOL
     
  17. Tiornu

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    M 1-4 were renamed after American generals early on in their existence, presumably in recognition of their US-made guns. However, since the US was neutral at the time, this caused a ruckus, and all were renamed again. General Grant became Havelock about a month before commissioning.
     
  18. JCFalkenbergIII

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    :D Ahhhhhhh.... Thanks for that .
     
  19. razin

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    Correct The Guns and Turrets from the Greek Salamis building in Germany and acquired from their US builders Bethleheim Steel- due to the blockade.

    Seemed a good idea to use U.S notables from the Civil War, then the realisation that the USA was a neutral power!

    Seems to have been going for the name record, Originally the Styx class then plain M1-4

    M2 became Ulysses S. Grant then General Grant then Lord Havelock and finally plain Havelock.

    The others were M1 -Admiral Farragut M2. General Grant, M3 General Lee and M4 General (Stonewall) Jackson
     
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    Ya see? you learn something new every day :).
     

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