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Discussion in 'WWII General' started by Totenkopf, Dec 7, 2008.

  1. Totenkopf

    Totenkopf אוּרִיאֵל

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    (Sorry, I do not mean in Italy!)

    I am just curious if any of his relatatives bearing the Hitler name are still around today? I have never seen information regarding it but I imagine that the name didnt die with him.
     
  2. PzJgr

    PzJgr Drill Instructor

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    There are cousins who live in the USA but under a different name. There was a documentary on them a while back. Very little information about them as they are protected by legal means.
     
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  4. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Oops, underneath it's spelt Adolf!

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    (watch it, this is from David Irving's website :rolleyes: )

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  5. marc780

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    Hitler had a sister named Paula and a half brother Alois. His sister was questioned by the allies at the end of world war 2 but it became evident that they had had no contact for years so she was let go. She never married or had children and i dont believe she is alive today. I think the nephew must have been from Alois who did have a family.
     
  6. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    I dont' either, as Ms. P. Hitler at the time her brother commited suicide was 49 years old, being 112 y.o. today as she was born in 1896. Actually she died in June 1st 1960.

    Journal reveals Hitler's dysfunctional family | World news | The Guardian

     
  7. brndirt1

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    Paula (Hitler's full sister) died years ago, and her burial site is being "recycled". This is not because of any anti-Hitler reason, or because of neo-Nazis coming there. It is simply standard practice after "X" number of years for each grave-site. Paula's bones have been transferred to and remain in an osuary (I believe).

    BTW, Adolf had more than the one nephew than Patrick from the union of Alois Jr. and Bridgette Dowling. But that nephew was killed on the eastern front without offspring. I just cannot for the life of me recall his name for sure (Heinz?).
     
  8. Mussolini

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    So Hitler was born via his fathers second marriage (his father was a very busy man). It is interesting that none of the Hitlers siblings had children (when did they die? did they not have children because of how Adolf turned out?).
     
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    Alois was quite the "lady's man", Klara (Adolf's mother) was his third wife, but only the second wife who could have children. Since his second wife (Franny) was the "maid" or something while his first wife (Anna) was in her sick-bed, and his cousin (Klara) was also working as kitchen help in the same household, it isn't out of the realm of possibility that he (Alois) was having "relations" with all three women at the same time!

    There are also unsubstansiated rumors that before he married his first wife (Anna) who was the daughter of his customs officer superior, he had fathered another child with another female. In another "twist", Alois had to get a Papal dispensation to marry Klara since they were cousins, and shared a paternal grandparent. The fact that Klara was pregnant at the time with their first son Gustav (didn't survive infancy), may have "speeded" up the approval a tad.
     
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    Sadly, we cannot learn more about Adolf :\, but Brian William, Alexander Adolf, generations down from Hitler should be protected even though their grand-father, or relative did something unseemingly wrong, it shouldn't be them to be punished upon their relatives' past mistakes.
     
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    Have you seen any mention in this thread of anyone punishing anybody for being a relative of AH?
     
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    I think Freud would agree: "That boy has issues...":D




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  13. marc780

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    In Hitler by john Toland, the author reveals that Adoplh Hitler was actually born with the surname of "Schicklegruber". The father (Alois) and mother (Klara) had to pull some legal strings (including bribing a priest to change records) in order to get Adoph's name changed to Hitler. As Toland points out, how different would history had been if they had not done this? He says it is hardly imaginable that wild crowds of millions of Germans would someday be screaming, "Heil Schicklegruber"!
     
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    Toland either got that part wrong (which I doubt), or he put it in as a "funny aside" with his tongue firmly in his cheek and people didn't get the joke. Alois had the name change before his second marriage, and his son Alois Jr. had to get his name changed from Matzelberger (his mother Franchesca's name) to Hitler when his father married his mother (Alois was also illigitimate and carried his mother's name; Schickelgruber into his first marriage), changed his to Hitler. Adolf and his five siblings from the last marriage were all born Hitlers, not Schickelgrubers.

    Now the name change by Alois may have been "illegal" in the strickest sense, since both his natural father and mother had to swear to the fact of the matter, and both were deceased by that time. The witnesses who signed the papers (with "x"s) were illiterate and only did what the local priest told them to do. The parish priest may have "mis-spelled" the name from Heidler to Hitler to keep the parish out of legal trouble later if this name-change is questioned. (speculation on my part)

    However, legal or not, the name-change was a long done deal before Adolf was born, heck is was done before his half-sister Angela was born. That was her legal name as well; Hitler. So all children born after Angela were Hitlers, not Schickelgrubers.

    Here is something else; if Alois (Adolf father) had just wanted to change his name, there would have been no problem. In Austria at that time there was no reason for anyone but the nobility or people possessing great wealth to go through a legal process to have a name change. There was no need of documents or witnesses to prove parentage. If a man wanted to change his name he simply changed it; and that was the end of the matter. (The Life and Death of Adolf Hitler. NY: Praeger Pub., 1973. p.7)

    Although the (name change) process skirted the letter of the law, the high illegitimacy rate in that part of Austria (about 46% of live births) made such practices common. At that time "lawyers" had made few inroads into the rural areas.

    So the law was still what tradition and custom said it was. Alois wanted to be legitimized, perhaps for inheritance reasons, or perhaps because as an official in the Royal Imperial Civil Service, Alois was now rubbing shoulders with the upper classes (with Germanic heritage), and his humble background was becoming an impediment for advancement in the customs office. The Schicklgruber name had its roots in the Bohemian region north of Austria, a region with a large Slavic Czech population. The Hiedler/Hitler name on the other hand, although possibly of Czech origin also, had been Germanized over the proceeding five hundred years.

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    http://smoter.com/hitlerna.htm
     
  15. Army Man

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    I think we're all forgetting his clones, Jack Curry, Simon Harrington, Erich Doring, and Bobby Wheelock. ;)

    Points to the first one who got the joke.
     
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    Pertaining to that documentary on Patrick Hiter's children, the amazing but bizarre thing about the 3 sons is they swore a bond to never have children of their own, therefor severing the bloodline.
     

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