Crime and Illegal Aliens

Hi TA, same thing goes on here-only since I left the system, it's gotten much worse from i've been told. Now they are hiring people who ONLY speak Spanish--as Correctional Staff in certain regions here in Tejas. I don't really have a probem with that but--it's really getting absurd here.

 

I just read something interesting in a book about Texas BBQ. It also covers some Texas history. Apparently illegal immigrants were welcomed as cheap labor but were not treated very well. Segregation in Texas affected them. Then in the early 30's, illegals were being deported to make room for the 'poor Okies' who were moving in to take their place in the cotton fields due to the crash. The Okies were not treated any better then the Mexicans. So apparently, this has been an up and down situation from way back.

 

Errr......whats an Okie?

 

Heh heh, Urgh, an Okie is a person from the State of Oklahoma. It is a loving kind of term that people use for those folks from that State. I guess it's kind of like Ami is to Americans or Canuck is to Canadians and such-or better yet--Reb is to a Southerner-like Jeff and I am. ;-D

 

Should have clarified that...sorry gents......I mean gentlemen.

 

well at least you can't say they discriminated. heh.

you would think that if they were born and raised here, they would pick something up along the way. I mean, catch phrases from t.v. shows or something.

 

You would be absolutely amazed to see how it is there. For instance-I knew and was friends with a few fellow Students who were from Brownsville-all were Caucasion-meaning not of Hispanic origin.

Of these, that Dancer I dated was one of them she was as blond-haired an blue-eyed as anyone you might see who was 100% Scandinavian. Her name was Lorelei Helgren. Anyway, being that she was born and raised in Brownsville-a City that is approx 98% Hispanic, Lorelei spoke English with a heavy Spanish accent-as well did anyone who was not of Hispanic origin-did. I was also friends with a great guy name of Robert Murphy--who was American of African descent--who also spoke English with a Heavily-flavored Spanish accent.

 

That's amazing, that an "outside" culture like that can have such a heavy influence on people and their language.

 

That's because that outside culture does not want or try to integrate with our culture so those of non-hispanic blood-are forced to accept and integrate into their culture-instead of just being normal everyday red-blooded Americans. That reason is part of why I have such a big problem with it. Also, of all the friends I have who are Hispanic-they all too think the way I do on these matters.

 

I only wish everyone else thought the same way. I mean, how is this any different from the immigrant rush of the early 1900's? they wanted to succeed, so they learned what they needed to, to get a job. We shouldn't accomadate those who don't want to even try.

 

did,nt clarify what

 

Exactly! most excellently said. The trouble with my or our way of thinking is that if you go against the grain-your automatically considered a racist. This happened to me recently when I was trying to get some help from no less than seven store employees at a local wally-world-aka-wal-mart.

What happened was, that I was looking for some certain brand of household cleaner and one or two other items-and I could not locate them on the section of shelves that those products SHOULD have been located on. Well, it must have been near shift change and night shift was coming in. Before I tried getting help from any of them coming i-I stopped two employess and asked forassistance in finding those cleaning products. The walmart stores in Corpus Christi certainly carried what I wanted but I couldn't seem to locate those products on the shelves in this Super wally-world.

Employee number one said they would be back in a few minutes to help me-but never came back. So-I figured they were given another task of some sort by a stupervisor-and so I asked another employee for help. That guy also said he would be right back but did not come back after I waited at least an additional ten minutes. Well, by that time, I noticed night shift coming in-and stopped the first one and inquired about those products but-this time the person couldn't speak or understand a single word in English-and im not fluent enough in spanish to ask that person what i need. All I got from herwas i no speaka English-and so I stopped the next person who seem to understand even less English than the female did.

By that time, I had been waiting for help for about 25 minutes and was starting to get irritated. I stopped another person walking in who didn't even acknowledge my requests. Because of that, I was almost rip-roaring mad-and I went to the closest counter that had a person manning it's register and booth. This time it was an elderly gentleman who barely spoke and or understood English. I therefore asked him to call for a stuporvisor-which he did then he walked away fromthe counter not telling me a damned thing. He was gone for at least 10 inutes and finally came back to the counter-and I said that since a stuperv isor had not arrived, I asked him to please call for a stupervisor again-after about two minutes of arguing with me about placing the call, he finally called.

Well hell hell, FINALLY a stupervisor came-some short skinny long brown-haired white female. The first words out of her mouth were: "You look really upset about something-what is it?" I proceeded to tell her about trying to get help from two people who said they would come back but did not. Then I told her about the three seemingly non-English-speaking or understanding employees that I stopped to get help from. Because I mentioned that they could not or did not want to speak English-this female canine interrupted me by saying: "Were a multi-cultural hiring business and YOUR a racist and im not going to help you." I think came back with: "Thank you for your standard coorperate answer, and your a ********" when I decided to give her some negative feedback in German-which it did not understand.

I HATE jerks like that ************ is. Because of MoRoNs like that, that just makes me even more sure that my beliefs are correct and that wal-mart is nothing but a greedy money-hungry non-loyal American Company that has been ruing by Sam Waltons five greedy buttheads for children. I BET that Sam Walton is spinning over in his grave at what his greedy off-spring have turned HIS company into.

On my way out after paying for the items I had-I ate a small Banana and threw the peel on the floor right in front of that ******* of a stupervisor-and walked out and left.

As Bill O-Reilly says: "I hate Pinheads."

 

That is absolutly rediculous. I cannot believe that she had the audacity to call you a racist because an American company IN America hires some espanol only personnel. I'm surprised you remained cordial for the long of a period, I applaude you.

But that cannot be stood for. I mean, sure it's wally world (i had often wondered how far that nickname traveled) but... I just can comprehend how on earth an employee is supposed to be an asset to any type of company when they cannot understand such a simple thing as the language of the country they are in. My God, at least buy a pocket translator and make an attempt! How on earth are they supposed to know product names, even if you were to ask them, in spanish, where something was, how the heck are they supposed to know what even to look for?!
just.. wow.
Thank God I live up north, I'm not to sure I could deal with that.

 

One thing about blaming businesses for wanting cheap labor; it's just not businesses...it's individuals who want cheap labor to mow their lawn, landscape the lawn, clean the pool, repaint the house,etc. I suspect that many households employ thousands of illegal immigrants everyday in some such capacities. It's a form of keeping up with the Joneses (on the cheap).

 

Well said and yep--that is the only time I have ever been called a racist. What that idiot doesn't know about me is that about half of the girlfriends I ever had-are Americans of Mexican descent. If I were racist-I don't think I would have dated any of them. That idiot wally-world employee-is the worst kind to have contact with because she is most likely an ass-kisser trying to work her way up the backstabbing corporate ladder that is a prominant feature of wally-world. Also, I am friends with a OMG--a Mexican Gent who is the main manager at one of the W-Ws in Corpus Christi. The guy lived two doors down from me at the Apt Complex I recently moved out of. He and I always used to make fun of each other by him cracking jokes about white people, and I would reciprocate in kind with one of the best jokes about something to do with Hispanic heritage-which is: "What do you call Tejano Music? Music played on stolen German instruments." :lol: :lol: That one always used to get him going-in a good naturly way ) The Gent/fr iend I refer to is Domingo Luna--which literally means: Sunday Moon-which is the name I always called him by whereever we met at.

But yep--some people like the idiot I encountered at W-W-are corporate "casting couch like" whores. Those types rip my asp raw.

 

Way to turn it around Texson... It's easy to point the finger at the businesses for wanting to hire immigrants for cheap labor. Who are the people behind the businesses?? the individuals! right?! You are absolutely correct - We all want a good deal when it comes to household upgrades, car repair, routine maint. on pools, lawn care, it's all tied together. When do we stand up for what is right??, and follow through on it? We ALL need to set the example for our children as well as our peers to mimic what is right. Enough of the follow mentality>>>when I speak of the Joneses (on the cheap).

Nav

 

Well said, and that hiring practice is RAMPANT here in Houston-town-ville-berg. It was starting to get bad in Corpus before I left. Gunna try leaving some good reps for you if site allows me?

 

Thanks, Carl!

I have to admit we (the better half and I) used a team of illegals accidentally. We contacted a local "reputable" painting contractor who made a reasonable bid on our work in line with other companies.

Later that week, a group of illegals ("no habla english") showed up to paint the house. The wife went outside (I was at work) to see how they were doing. Now the job wasn't bad (other than getting paint drops on porch lamps and painting the basement wire screens over). She soon discovered that NONE of the crew spoke English!

She contacted the company and let them have it. They didnt apologize or offer to send out a translator either! She called the INS, and they ho-hummed the whole thing.

So the Feds who are "in charge" of our borders are not doing their job (maybe illegals could help round up illegals for the INS (as if they cared)??)

The sooner we protect jobs for Americans by enforcing the immigration laws the better. Let the Deomocrats find other ways to get US citizens to vote for them on merit, not just handouts from Uncle Sugar to citizens and citizens-who-shouldnt be here.

 

Welcome and well said. I applad your wife for standing up to doing the right thing. I too and only once had used someone who was an illegal alien. The guy spoke fairly good English which is about the same as what many in my hometown spoke like-who lived there all their lives.

Well, I was 21 and owner of a successful yardcare business. I did so much business that I had to hire six men--all much older than I was by at least 20 years ;-)) do the jobs I couldn't do myself as well as a friend of mine I had working for me. Well, my friend Allison, was out of town on Vacation wiht her family in New York City and they were staying there a month-and I was in charge of watching their house and making sure the Dogs were well-fed-brushed etc.

Anyway, I was so busy one day-starting at 6:30 in the morning to do a huge property near where Dick Kleberg Park is located. That day I had four yards to cut, edge, weedeat and clean up-and with Allison gone for a month to NYC--I had to do that work all by myself and it all had to be done that day, because for the next week or so-not only my regular customers yards had to be done-I had an extra three per day that I had to do by myself.

Well, one week day-I was feeling pretty sick but stillhad to get the work done. This was when I then-unknowlingly h ad Double Pneumonia. I did the first yard-and decided to see if I could get some help for the week by going to the nearest job search center-which wasn't worth a s**t, and some guy was standing outside it holding up a card saying he'd do anything for money-so I figured hey-I have who I needed.

Well, as he spoke decent English-I gured he was at least from the area and it never occurred to me he was not here legally. He started out as a decently hard worker but it turned out that when my back was turned because of being busy-the SoB was stealing tools from me by hiding them in his jacket which he was not wearing. Up untill that time, I never, not once, ever had any hired help steal from me-let alone from the owners of the yards I was caring for.

Well, we had already finished one yard-my 2nd for the day-and I was definately looking forward to an hour lunch break-especially being sick and all. Well, I dropped him off at some house he was staying at-left for lunch and immediately noticed a boot knife I had for using to cut weedeater string and such--was missing from it's leather scabbard which I had slipped to my sun visor. I figured that maybe I had left it at the house or placed it into the cars trunk not thinking-so I went to lunch. After lunch-I went and picked that gu up again and we went back to finish the house we were planting pallets of grass at-and as i needed my boot knife-I went to look for it not finding it anywhere. I KNEW that I had not lost it or used it earler that day when I was alone-so I questioned the guy and he claimed he never saw my boot knife. Also, all of my tools had orange handles for easy seeing at night.

He was wearing his jacket and I reached inside and found three of my screwdrivers were nicely sitting on the inside of his pocket. He claimed he forgot that he put them there which waqs bullS---and he knew I knew he was a liar. For one-it would have been impossible NOT to notice the combined weight of those three large wellmade screwdrivers. I checked the othersides inside pocket-and the sunB--had two of my most expensive pliars in it as well as a cheapo buck rip-off pocket knife. I was pissed by that time, and was ready to gauge his eyes out. I then drove to the INS station (which was a complete waste of time) as well as the time I already wasted because of this thieving punk.

Well, I pulled up beehind the building and told him to get out of my car-after I walked around to the otherside and opened the door tugging on his sleeve indicating I meant what I said. When he got out of the car-my boot knie-which had a 6 inch daggar-like blade-fell out of his boot. I said son of a b---h, you thieving m----rf----r. I grabbed all my items and threw them into the trunk of my car-then proceded to search his other pockets-oh and I held onto my knife.

I found a small and expensive pair of my shears in his other boot-and found two pairs of those rubber handles tat are on kids bikes-in his side pockets. That turd was so damned stupid that if I had been stealing items-I would have at least left them all at home when dropped off for lunch!!!

Being I was pissed, I was going to detain him and see if I could hand him over to the INS. I pulled his left arm around to his back an pulled my knife and placed it at the turds ear. I said if he made a move-he was going to regret it. I then escourted him to the INS door-which was locked and a person had to ring the bell and hope the door was answered.

I pushed him against the brick walld still with my knife at his ear, and after waiting about 10 minutes-in which there was NO excuse for that kind of time to elapse before someone answered the door. I was asked what was my business and I said I wanted to make a citizens arrest on an thieving illegal I had detained. I was told to wait and that someone would be there in a moment-I waited at least another 10 or so minutes-nobody came-and I kept ringing the doorbell and nobody came back. I turned my attention to looking for another entrance and it was then the scared-sh--less turd decided to make a run for it. He broke free and proceeded to run down the railroad tracks nearby. By the time someone did come to the door-about 30 seconds after he broke free-it was too late-the freak was gone.

The guy who ansered the door was a Lt, and just so happened-unknownst to me at that time-that he was the nextdoor neighbor of the person I was planting grass for-and whose kids bicycles those rubber handles belonged to. I found that our after leaving the INS building and had been just finishing up my work at the house next to his-and saw the Lt drive up into the driveway-recognizing him when he exited his car.

I was about head over to his house to giv e him those stolen rubber grips-which at that time he had not known anything had happened at his house. I told him wha happened and how long it took for someone to answer the door at the station and he turned red and was pissed-went inside and called up somebody there-came back out and said that if I ever have any trouble getting anyone to answer the door-and ESPECIALLY if I had an illegal with me detained-that he was going to have their butts for breakfast, lunch and supper. I thanked him and finished u what I needed to do and left. It also turned out that his wife was home at that time-and she was a looker-and thought about what COULD have happened had the illegal broke into the house and raped her or worse. This made the local newspaper that Wednesday.

Ever since then, I have had to arrest six other illegals-three at gunpoint. The INS came and picked those up after I called the local Police-who arrived and helped me detain them, then I was told how to do a Citizens arrest-which I did-and we turned them over to INS when they finally arrived-some 45 or so minutes after the Policeman called his Dispatcher and had her call the INS.

 

Once again I must applaude you, you're quite the one man army. woo-whee.