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WW2 Movie Inaccuracies

Discussion in 'WWII Films & TV' started by Wolfy, Apr 4, 2009.

  1. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    Godless Savages that lot........Gerry was asking for it he was.
     
  2. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    Those pubs, is that where the "Drunk and Disorderly" regiment that Stefan referred to was raised?
     
  3. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    Just for the record, the bombed pub in BofB is the 'Rose and Crown', as in : -

    ' They got the Rose'n'Crahn...they got the Rose'n'Crahn....'

    The un-bombed pub where Christopher Plummer argues with Susannah York is The Jackdaw at Denton in Kent - about two miles from Hawkinge airfield....

    ;)
     
  4. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    10 Points to Martin, starter for 10 no conferring....What number bus was it that the famous blitz pic of sitting in bomb crater was taken? Your bonus points are if you know its destination....I'm only asking cos I bet he knows....
     
  5. ghost_of_war

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    It was supposedly recon.... if that's the case, I wouldn't send more than one.

    Other movie beefs:

    The misuse of 'flash & thunder' from SPR. Glad Spielberg and Hanks corrected that for BoB.

    The final battle scene when the tank is crossing the bridge. The tank explodes AND THEN you see the '51 fly over.... ??

    In Pearl Harbor, NO ONE IS SMOKING A CIGARETTE IN 19 FRIGGIN' 41?!?

    In Pearl Harbor, when the girls are getting in to Pearl ( I think this was the scene), you can see the Arizona Memorial in the background.

    In Pearl Harbor, one of the hangars says Est. 1951.

    Interesting tidbits from Pearl Harbor - all of Roosevelt's (Voights) speaking parts were supposedly exact transcripts of what was said.

    In the beginning, the stunt they pulled 'playing chicken' with the P-40's would have had them courtmartialed (sp?) immediately.

    Another from Pearl Harbor, when they show the whole fleet sailing, there is clearly a nuclear submarine out front. It is easily distinguished by its teardrop shaped hull.
     
  6. dead_celeb

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    I would like to add, I have no idea what type of self propelled gun it is supposed to be. I know a bit about such things, and have never seen any pictures of a German self propelled gun that looks like the one in that scene.
    The Germans did make use of a lot of captured and adapted weapons, so it could be some unusual type I have never seen before. Particuarly France 1944, they may have been making use of all kinds of strange surplus and adapted weapons.
     
  7. blacksnake

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    To the best of my knowledge dead_celeb, the SPG portrayed in the film is supposed to be the SdKfz 138 Marder III. A class of "Tank Destroyer" built on a Panzer II chassis that first saw service in 1942. Weather any were available at the time and location portrayed in the film I do not know.
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  8. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Not exactly a war movie, but watched Elizabeth Town with Orlando Bloom yesterday...feelgood movie...all ok till end...last scene...summing up his mood...a pic of American bombers on a daylight mission comes up, he talks over it...something like, The British SPECIAL air force had a motto, he who risks all wins...

    I had to be forceably stopped from kicking the telly round the room.
     
  9. Totenkopf

    Totenkopf אוּרִיאֵל

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    Another from SPR.
    I know we cant have 10hour long movies but the producer really spat on the Omaha beach defenders didn't they? They took the beach in a Matter of five minutes?
     
  10. paratrooper506

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    well I think this has already been covered but you notice how in band of brothers every shot the germans fire misses almost every time but every time an american soldier fires a shot the german is dead
     
  11. paratrooper506

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    It was,nt the lead tank that got hit it was the second tank I think it was a church hill tank but when the sherman came around the corner and then the other tank the second one got hit:)
     
  12. Tomcat

    Tomcat The One From Down Under

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    HAHA

    The whole "5 Hours later" on a black screen".
     
  13. dead_celeb

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    SPR-
    I'm not sure this would exactly count as an 'inaccuracy' as such, but the German soldier whom they capture and then spare his life at the radar station, who then reappears to fight them again near the end is portrayed in something of a morally heavy handed way I think.

    He is cowardly, squirming to save his life, then a brutal killer. And he is, as far as I can recall, the only German character we get to know.

    But then, I suppose a film from the American perspective is hardly likely to feature a really likeable German soldier...'Ja, after ze war I am going to set up an orphanage for leetle puppies....BANG'
     
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    I did a bit of a Google investigating, and the Saving Private Ryan Online Encyclopedia says-

    ''Although the first tank destroyer seen is clearly a German Marder III (Ausf. M), the second (the one destroyed by Horvath) was a bit harder to identify, and appears to be a Swedish Sav m/43 assault gun, a type of armor that the 2nd SS Panzer Division would certainly not have been using.''

    So my suspicions are confirmed!
     
  15. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    I never realized, until now, it was the same guy.

    As far as seeing Brits : there is a scene in "To Hell and Back" where Audie Murphey's platoon walks past several Brits drinking tea on the side of a road and there is a short discussion with them.

    Brad
     
  16. Walt313

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    Duh??? The irony of the man Miller lets live comes back to kill him.

    For the record, Dad said "To Hell and Back" and "What Did You Do in the War Daddy?" were the most accurate portrayal of combat in Italy.
     
  17. dead_celeb

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    Oh dear! Its a pretty important part of the development of the Corporal Upham character-I suppose its a sort of message that any pity in war is misguided.
     
  18. dead_celeb

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    Actually, I checked it out, again from the SPR Encyclopedia-

    ''One very common mistake that viewers make in watching Saving Private Ryan is assuming that the German soldier set free by Miller is the same one that kills Private Mellish. The soldier that kills Mellish is from the Waffen-SS, while Steamboat Willie is a regular soldier in the Heer (Army). The two characters do bear a superficial resemblance to each other, largely due to their shaven heads and basic Germanic racial characteristics. In reality German soldiers did not have such closely-cropped hair, but for reasons unknown the production crew made sure that the German extras all received the same haircut.''

    -And all this time I assumed it was meant to be the same guy. Anyone else made this mistake?
     
  19. Tomcat

    Tomcat The One From Down Under

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    So how does know Uppens name?
     
  20. ghost_of_war

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    You mean Cpl. Timothy Upham?
     

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