Freedom of speech and religion

I may have said this already but it is a complicated issue. The stance for 'absolute' freedom to me is a license to the corrupt. Yet, leaving it to the government to tweak and police is not attractive at all. I expect more violence to errupt because of all the tap dancing. Remember boys and girls, guns don't kill, people kill.

 

True. It is complicated, and violence can occur because of it. On a lesser note, we had a demo by relgious groups against the Jerry Springer opera in UK last year that caused a rumpus. And yes on a more serious note the Danish cartoons. We cant expect others to react any less than we react to a perceied assault on our own religious values or beliefs in a similar way. I'm glad I was born catholic....no overheads...Your born catholic you die catholic no ambiguity and no escape.

But its precicely because of the lesser type demo like the peaceful one against Springer opera that the govt has to get involved with laws....Otherwise we have chaos...especially as the BBC who broadcast that particular show are licensed by every adult in the country by law and receive our annual payments whether we watch or not.

We are in an even bigger mire than the States in that respect.

 

Long-winded semiotics aside, it's a shame Humptie's attitude isn't more popular.

 

guys tell me if I am right or wrong but I believe we have no freedom left at all america is becoming a ******* communist country and that is just bull ****

 

Sorry I should have pointed out the main crux is in the last sentence..as far as the England and Wales is concerned..

'Must be threatening and not just abusive or insulting'

 

That egg looks hard boiled to me....Isnt that against health and safety?

 

Not when you've reassurances from the King's lips...

 

Well now weve brought law and order to the internet its time for bed said Zeberdee....I'm going to cut his springs...I'm sure he's Orange Lodge...Night all.

 

It's true that Blacks have been lynched in this country, but then so have whites, although probably not as many. But Obama was a political candidate, first and foremost, and there is also a very long tradition of hanging politicians in effigy in this country. That such activity can be seen as offensive should be outweighed by the fact that it is also political expression. And police investigations of such things as hanging in effigy discourage political expression. The police need to be sensitive to that also.

As for "race baiting" it is only a crime if you are white. Blacks use racially loaded language all the time and their is no reaction to it.

 

You have touched upon a good point DA. Free speech is different for each individual, based upon there own religion, sex, race, etc. It is considered horrible if I were to use to "N" word to describe a black person, but they can walk around calling me "cracker" all day long, and there is nothing wrong with it, while at the same time describing themselves with the same word I am not permitted to use.

 

Free speech though is not as free as free air. Both our nations have laws that explain the limits of free speech?

They are not a guide, they are the law. We can of course step outside of the law, but then we become law breakers and must suffer any consequences..

Unless we are allowed to break the laws we dont like.

I have no problem with that. Some laws are constantly re-written and some are plainly wrong, it takes some time to change em etc, but the laws are not a guidline to be looked on and then cast aside. Those are the rules...Help change em by all means, but step outside of em even an unjust law in your or my mind and you set an example to others on laws they dont wish to live by.