I'm a new member. I was trying to find information about mines and booby traps in the greek civil war using the google. But i didnt find anything. Anyone knows about ? I know that the Greek civil war was after the end of the Second world war, but there was almost the same weapons, as the members of the resistance fought against the enforcement of the king. Thank you in advance ark
Speculation. The Germans pulled out of Greece in a hurry and probably left ordnance behind. The British occupied Greece after the Germans left and no doubt provided ordnance to Greek factions opposing the Communists. The Communists may have obtained German, Italian, and / or Russian ordnance from Tito. I also believe American advisors were present during the civil war and there may have also been U.S. ordnance available as well. Cheers BW
Dear BWilson, In the Greek Civil War was the Δ.Σ.Ε (Greek Army for the Democracy), against the Ε.Σ (Greek Army). The Greek Army for the Democracy consisted not only by communists, but almost all of the resistance members. Could you give me any information or websites about the U.S. ordnance, the German ordnance, the Italian ordnance, or Russian ordnance; Thank you in advance, ark
If Tito's Communists in Yugoslavia helped to outfit the Greeks, they' also have American and British weapons as both countries outfitted Tito's partisans during World War II. What are the exact years of the Greek Civil War? I'd also imagine there would be a lot of Soviet weapons used too. In regards to the mines, I think they'd be a random assortment from all those countries.
The weapons which used in the Greek Civil War. I know that is a bit irrelevant, but i think that it can give you an idea about the variety of ordnance which used. Probably there was a usage of italian mines. Mussolini, have you any information about italian mines??Or a website? Revolvers Nagant 7.62 /1898 Colt 0.38 /1924 Colt-M1917 0.455in. Smith & Wesson 0.38 Webley-MkIV 0.38 Enfield-No 2MkI 0.38 Glisenti ml1889 10.35mm Pistols Browning 9mm 1910/22 Rubi-Martian 7.65 Beretta 9mm 1934 Glisenti ml 1910 9mm Glisenti Luger-P08 9mm Walter-P38 9mm Mauser-C96 7.63 Rifles-Carbines Mannlicher-Schoenauer 6.5mm 1903/14/25 Mannlicher-Repetier 8mm or 7.92 1895 Mannlicher-Carcano M91 6.5mm Bertier-mle 1892 8mm Mannlicher ml 1895 8mm Lebel mle 1886 8mm Mauser FN ml 1930 7.92mm Mauser ml 1890/1893/1903/1905 7.92mm Gras 11mm 1874 Lee Enfield 1 MkIII 0.303in Lee Enfield 4 MkI 0.303in Mosin Nagant 7.62 1891/1930 MP44, 7.92mm Gew, 7.92mm Kar-98k 7.92 M1-Garant 7.62 M1-Carbine .303inch Submachine guns Stayer MP34 9mm Beretta 38A 9mm Tompson 0.45in. MP38-Smaicher 9mm MP40 Marsip 9mm Erma MPE 9mm Suomi M34 9mm or 7.65 MP34 / MP35 9mm MP41 9mm Sudayeva PPS43 7.62 PPSh41 7.62 ZKvz383 9mm UD42 9mm Tompson M1A1 Patchet or Sterling 9mm Steyer-Solothyrn S1-100 9mm Steyer Beretta ml 1938A 9mm Glisenti Light machine guns Chauchat 8mm Hotchkiss 6.5mm Breda 6.5mm Bren MkI & Lewis MkI 7.7mm Madsen 7.92 Hotchkiss mle 1922/1926 6.5mm Hotchkiss mle 1922 7.92 mm BarM1918A2 7.62 Machine guns MG-42 7.92 mm MG-35 7.92 mm Hotchkiss mle 1914/1926 7.92 Maxim ml 1908/1915 7.92mm Swarzloze ml 1907/1912 St.Etiene mle 1907 Vickers Mk I 7.7mm Fiat ml 1935 8mm Fiat Revelli ml 1914 6.5mm Breda ml 1937 8mm
That's a tall order, but try this as a start: Inert-Ord.net - A Varied and Detailed Display of Collectable Military Ordnance German Mines PMD series mines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Mines and Charges Cheers BW
I don't see much about this on the internet. From what I recall, most of them were grenades or artillery shells that were detonated by weight or by having a trip wire pulled. Section 5 of this resource talks about booby traps in general: http://armyapp.dnd.ca/ael/pubs/B-GL-361-009-FP-001_E.pdf Cheers BW
Thank you for the website Last year i found with my unit a very strange booby trap. It consisted by a 75mm artillery shell hidden in a tree with three trip wires and three grenades hidden near to the shell. The lieutenant ordered me to blow up the trap. But i am still wondering about that trap. German or English design??Or a design of a genius guerilla?
Try my ordnance website it has members from all over the world they may be able to help you British Ordnance Collectors Network - Inert Ordnance from WW1, WW2 and more - Inert Ordnance Identification And Militaria Collectors Resource
Thank you spotter. Very nice site! The trap which i found was a very clever design. I, 60 years after that and second lieutenant of the Greek Army, i could'nt ever think to use a combination of grenade and artillery shells. Probably i would use some M18's. The fantasy and the improvisation were replaced by the technology. But the most interesting thing is that the one grenade was not hidden well and the whole trap was covering a path entrance, about 10 meters long.