I csme across this article in today's paper. I thought I'd post it as it melds WW2 and Father's Day. Interesting reading, though a bit sad. Beth Guyver never knew her father. For most of her life, the London resident believed he was a British pilot, killed during World War II. She thought he had died just before her birth in 1945. The truth came out at a family Christmas dinner in 1990. Her mother looked across the table at one of Guyver's sons, then 18, and made a startling observation: He looked just like an American GI she had known in 1944 . . . just like Guyver's father. The revelation changed Guyver's life. For nearly two decades since then, she has been searching for her father, David Greene, a Pennsylvania man who was stationed at an Army Air Corps base in Chelveston, Northamptonshire, in the fall of 1944. She has spent thousands of British pounds, filled up nine two-drawer filing cabinets with correspondence, and traveled to the United States, even knocking on doors in Philadelphia as she tried to find him. Today, Father's Day, is emotional for her. Time is running out. Every day that passes makes her long-anticipated reunion less likely. "Half of me is missing," said the 63-year-old clinical psychologist. "I don't feel a complete person." Guyver is one of tens of thousands of children across Europe and the Pacific who were fathered by American GIs during World War II. They are in England, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, and elsewhere. The sons and daughters are in their 60s and the fathers in their 80s or 90s, giving the search a now-or-never urgency. "I would like to know what he did with his life," Guyver said. "Where did his family come from? I did my family tree to 1295 on my mother's side, and I went back to 1442 on my husband's side. But I can't do anything on my father's side." Guyver said her mother and father had met a few times at dances in Chelveston in October and November 1944 while he served as an Army dispatch rider, probably in a support unit of the 305th Bombardment Group of the Eighth Air Force. She served in Britain's Women's Auxiliary Air Force. "He told my mother he had been in the police force before," Guyver said. "It might have been in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh. He said he went out on a domestic call one time and was hit over the head with a frying pan. My mother thought that was quite good." People from many backgrounds were thrown together during the war and struck up quick friendships. Guyver's mother used to see Greene riding his motorbike around the air base. He was a striking GI, standing 6 feet tall, weighing about 160 pounds, with an athletic build. "During World War II, life was so different in Great Britain. . . . You could be bombed at any time and be gone," Guyver said. "You could be dead just like that. You lived for the moment." Guyver's mother became pregnant, gave birth, tried unsuccessfully to find the GI, and ended up marrying a member of the British navy. Even now, the 87-year-old - whose identity was withheld by her daughter - keeps her GI secret, not wishing to carry the stigma of giving birth to a "war babe." "She just wanted to forget him. She doesn't know if he survived the war," Guyver said. If he's living, "my father doesn't know he has a daughter, two grandsons, and four great-grandchildren." Some of the GI children have joined support organizations such as Transatlantic Childrens' Enterprise, known as TRACE (www.tracepw.org/), a British group founded by a GI war bride, and www.gitrace.org, which offers tips for finding fathers and useful online links. The music of "Somewhere Out There" plays over the gitrace Web site, and poems express the feelings of those still looking for their fathers. One, by Janette Taylor, reads in part: I've longed to know my father the heartaches never end I've missed his love and comfort my broken heart he'd mend! Part of me is missing I'm feeling incomplete Oh Lord look after daddy until the day we meet. Guyver listed her father on the site's search list, hoping to hear from someone who has information about him. She also has written countless letters and made innumerable phone calls looking for leads. In 1997, she flew to Philadelphia to follow up on a tip from a friend in Hatfield who had information from a Philadelphia police officer that seemed promising: the city address of a David Greene who had been on the force. It turned out the man had died the previous year. She knocked on neighbors' doors and found they weren't sure whether he was 60 or 80 years old. Undaunted, Guyver headed on to Pittsburgh to check more leads, later returning to England without an answer. Today, the search of the war babies continues. This weekend, one of Guyver's friends is looking for leads on his father at the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis. "Some have been lucky and found their fathers," Guyver said. "There are many like myself who are still searching. None of us feel that we are a complete person as we have no knowledge of 50 percent of our genes. "Some, like myself, have medical problems," added Guyver, who has a blood disorder, "and it would be a great help to our treatment if we had our paternal family history." Guyver thinks of her father often and tries to picture him. "I imagine he would be like my son because my mother said he looked like him when he was 18," she said. "She gets very frustrated, and I see it," said the son, Gerald, 37, a database employee for the Metropolitan Police at New Scotland Yard. "She does have her moments. "She sees everyone else finding their parents, and she's the one who can't find her father." But Guyver is not giving up. "I feel like I will find him," she said. "I'm a determined person. My mother said I'm like my father. "I've got to find him." War children's search U.S. dads gets urgent | Philadelphia Inquirer | 06/21/2009
Very sad, but very common after ww2. In Germany,there was over 100,000 babies being born to American & British (Not sure about Russian & French men though) Fathers to German women,and most of the American & British Fathers all went back home,leaving there German infants in Germany. There's even adult Germans looking for there American & British fathers this instant! I did have a link,but i have to relocate the link,it's somewhere.
Another site, for the children of Canadian servicemen Voices of the Left Behind, War Children of World War Two, Canadian veterans On one page it has the following: An estimated 30,000 Canadian War Children were born of unions between Canadian servicemen and unwed, single women in Britain and Europe during and immediately after the Second World War. The most famous Canadian War Child is legendary rock-blues guitarist, Eric Clapton, who found out in March, 1998 that his father, Edward Fryer, was a Canadian soldier from Montreal. Most Canadian War Children, (22,000+), were born in England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales, reflecting the length of time Canadian soldiers were stationed in the UK between 1939 and 1946. It is estimated that there are at least 23,000 War Children of American soldiers in the United Kingdom as well. The largest number of Canadian War Children on the European continent were born in the Netherlands (6,000) after the Dutch Liberation in May, 1945. The majority of these (4,500) were born to single women, the remainder (1,500) were born to married women whose husbands were still in German concentration camps or other parts of Europe at the time the Canadians were in Holland. These children were registered under the mother's married name. Lesser numbers of War Children were born in Belgium and other countries where the Canadians were stationed during and after the war. Every War Child's story is different. Some parents were actually married and for reasons known only to their father, he disappeared after the war. But the overwhelming majority of War Children were born to unwed, single mothers who were treated as outcasts in a society that viewed unwed pregnancy and single motherhood as a social taboo. Many suffered as a result of the circumstances of their birth. For them, the search for their father takes on greater meaning. Many of the War Children were put up for adoption immediately after birth. For these children, the search also includes their mother. Other War Children, like Eric Clapton, were raised by their grandparents or relatives who pretended to be their parents. Some courageous women defied social prejudices and kept their children. Many married when the children were still young. These children grew up never knowing their real father was a Canadian soldier. Like Eric Clapton, many War Children were told at an early age of their paternity. Others found out about their Canadian fathers as teenagers, others as they grew into adults and into middle age. Some War Children found out only recently about their Canadian fathers, many after their mothers died and the truth could finally be told. The oldest War Children were born in 1940, within a year of Canadian's arrival in Britain in December, 1939. The youngest War Children were born in 1946-47, towards the end of the Canadian's presence overseas. Every War Child is different, but one major similarity they all share is a desire to know their Canadian roots. Like Eric Clapton, they may just want to know if their father is still alive and where he lives. Some War Children may want to know if he married and had other children. They may want to know more about their father's personality and life, such as what kind of a person he was, what kind of a family he came from, and what kind of work he did. Others may want their fathers to know they exist, they would love a picture of him, or for him to have a picture of them. If he is willing, they would like to meet him and his Canadian family, and hopefully to meet their half brothers and sisters. If their father is dead, they may want to know where he is buried so they may visit his grave. They may also want to meet some of his relatives in Canada, if the relatives are willing.
Yes, Michelle the children of wars are usually a sad affair in one way or another. There was a recent article in the Smithsonian magazine about the Amerasian children of Vietnam. How they were scorned by both their mothers and the government for many years until an American individual (forget his name) started up a movement to get them visas and residency in the US. Then they became the "darlings" of many a Vietnamese person who wished to capitalize on their status and come to America as their "guardians". Many, upon arriving in the US found themselves abandoned again as their "guardians" dumped them and moved away into obscurity. I have also seen statistics that in the Soviet section of occupied Germany immediately post war there were over 2 million abortions performed on German women, at their request. These aborted fetuses were without doubt the result of rapes, not willing sexual congress. More emotional scars which are the unintended consequences of wars to add to the total.
One of the first sites I came across in trying to research my father's place in WW2 was a site maintained by Clifford Audinet, whose father was KIA in Italy. He was in the same regiment as my father, so I found it quickly. His story of trying to research his father is a poignant one, especially considering that his parents divorced during the war, and his mother got rid of all information pertaining to his father. It's worth reading about his search. The 473rd Infantry Regiment In WWII
This is a post I came across by some others that as an American, a veteran, and a man, I find completely offensive, but typical of American sentiment in a post war world. My mother, a former POW, is such a woman as described here earlier. My older brother a product of an American GI raping her. My brother did not discover his true relationship until he was drafted to go to Vietnam; which at the time he discovered he held a dual citizenship. My mother came here as a warbride, but my father was not the man who fathered my brother. As I see it, My family as long as they have been in this country has dutifully served this country. That includes my brother, sired by a coward. As a product of this German, naturalized American citizen, I too, along with all my siblings, American and German, have served this country. The trauma my family experienced as a result of my mother's captivity remain to this day. Read the commentary below and see just how bigotry and hatred continue to permeate our country. These people have the guts to call themselves American. I call them pathetic. Originally Posted by nevai It might sound cruel, but I have little sympathy for those German women who were raped by the Soviets during and after WWII. I view it as part of the punishment that the Germans received for the unspeakable crimes they committed against the Soviet Union. I am not even talking about the murder of the Jews and other Untermenschen or the crimes against other European nations. Just for what they did to the Soviet Union, Germany would have justly deserved to be totally eliminated. They are lucky they weren't. Ditto about Austria, Hungary, and the other allies of Germany. Please note that I have no particular sympathy for the Soviet Union either. Yet another evil empire. I am glad to see that the current Germany is a different country and that the Germans succeeded to rejoin the Western civilization. Sincerely, Paul Nevai Columbus, Ohio, USA Spoken like a true victor. This is the way wars were waged in the past. The defeated slain or sold as slaves, the women raped and then killed, the cities looted and the razed to the ground. You are in good company. oh! almost forgot, you don't sound cruel, what on earth could make you think that ? exterminating the Germans, having no simpathy for the victims of rape. Nope, it doesn't sound cruel to me. It sounds alright to me, buddy. Sincerely, symewinston
I'm curious where you came across that post. I can find no member of this site with that username. If it came from another site, then shame on them for not responding to it. Please be so kind as to let us know where it came from. I hope you will stick around this place long enough to know what we are all about. Most of the members are thinking folk with an interest in studying all aspects of WW2. We try to steer away from angry comments and those that do come in are usually dealt with by other members, or the moderation team.