Captured Aircraft

Rogues check these out.... I'm sorry the pics aren't that clear, but you get the idea.



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Nice photos Mark, I find this kind of thing quite interesting. In fact there is a whole thread here about captured AFVs during the war:

http://www.ww2f.com/weapons-wwii/22220-allied-use-captured-axis-afvs-tanks-14.html

 

The book On Special Missions - The Luftwaffe's Research & Experimental Squadrons 1923-45 (ISBN: 1-903223-33-4) has many pictures of captured Allied aircraft, including some of those shown above. The P-47 originally belonged to Lt William Roach of the 355th Fighter Group. It was the first intact P-47 captured by the Germans.
The P-38 is quoted as possibly having belonged to the 14th Fighter Group, 12th Air Force.
Although there are several pictures of the P-51 the author states that it has proven impossible to find it's original USAF operators.
There are no B-17's shown in the book but here is a link to a site dealing with the German KG 200 use of captured Allied aircraft...

http://www.kg200.org/historyac1.html

 

There's even captured Spitfires that actually had there engines taken out and received german engines. I have no idea why the germans would make an aircraft worst than before by putting a much more weaker engine in the Spifire.
Captured Aircraft Fleet Air Arm Archive 1939-1945 Contents Page

Any one know of any Mossies ever being captured by any axis side?

 

hucks,

Well done I'd salute or rep ya if I could... unfortunately that will have to wait. As soon as I can, you got it. Did the Germans transform their own aircraft into allied planes??

 

The book I mentioned in my post above also has photos & a colour plate of Mossies.

 

I don't know if the German's ever flew their own aircraft with Allied markings but I doubt that they did. I do have another book (but can't locate it at this moment in time) which shows many German aircraft being flown by the Russians and wearing the Red Star, and I expect that an internet search will turn up many pictures of German aircraft captured by the British & US and wearing the Allied markings while undertaking evaluation flights.

 

Once again, appreciate the feedback hucks... I will definitely check out that book, and have already checked out the website posted Good stuff

Mark

 

Excellant. Mossies in german coloring? Which number photo is the Mossie,excellant link. oh yeah,I see the germans loved the American aircrafts aswell,I had always thought the germans loved the Mossie & the Spifire only,learnt something already.

Thanks for that.

 

If you register and join the forum Luftwaffe Experten Message Board they have a whole section on captured German aircraft as well as sections on captured aircraft used by the Luftwaffe.

 

The Mossie in the book is a B IV bomber type. It wore the German marking T9+XB but the original unit is unknown. Colours wise all the aircraft were painted with a a yellow underside and tail. Most of the aircraft were based out of Rechlin.

 

good pics mark,ray..

 

Here is another link that will be of interest to you...

Germany - Captured Allied Aircraft

 

This book on the subject is due to be released in October...

Foreign Planes in the Service of the Luftwaffe: Amazon.co.uk: Jean Louis Roba: Books

 

I have just received the book in my previous post and it is a must for anyone interested in seeing Allied/Foreign aircraft in Luftwaffe service in WW2. It has 212 pages and every one of them shows various photos, mainly 2 to a page but sometimes 1 sometimes 3. It is packed with some interesting photos.

 

This was a 453rd BG B-24 named "Jabberwock" that was captured intact, and later found in Austria at the end of the war.

 

mcoffee,

Good find! and thanks for sharing... any further info on the "Jabberwock" that you can share?

Jem

 

That is one of the many photos in the book mentioned. It was used to supply Rhodes while in German service.

Source: Foreign Planes In The Service Of The Luftwaffe by Jean-Louis Roba

 

41-28641 was captured on 4 February 44, which was the day before the 453rd BG's first operational mission. The group was conducting a practice mission, and 641 got separated from the group during join-up over their base in overcast. They really got lost, as they crash-landed at Eger, Czechoslovakia. All 10 crew members spent their war as POW's.

One of the 449th's original ships made a forced landing at a German controlled N. Italy field and was captured. The son of one of the crew members has a nice site. Check out the photo and video links of "Sunshine" at the bottom of the page.
The Saga of Sunshine

 

mcoffee,

Thank you for providing feedback on the Jabberwock, and the additional link to the the Saga of Sunshine... very interesting. After reading the story of the crew aboard the Sunshine, and their wartime experience... the article sparked an idea that came to mind. The crew was forced to enact a voluntary surrender for a German newsreel. Do you believe this method of portrayal was done quite frequently?? For feedback to Hitler, and the German populous??

Jem