Men of war is without a doubt one of the best RTS games if you are a ww2 fan. Its a sequal to Faces of war and soldiers heroes of ww 2 Its made by the russians and therefor not that well known as lets say company of heroes. However its an awsome game and it focus more on realism then the average game does. Tanks are made to be more to what they where in real life, with accurat armor and gun penetration. No tanks with hitpoints like most other games. The firing ranges may not be the same for gameplay reasons. Other awsome features is that you can whenever you like control them yourself, aim, shoot like a 3rd person shooter game. Heres an example: YouTube - Men of War Gameplay Movie 06 Or this vid: YouTube - Tiger and King Tiger in action
Great Subject man!! Also This game offers the Ability for driving a car ,truck & a Tank with Keyborad although it's a Strategy game!! Player can aim Machine guns & Cannons and shots as he likes with single or multishots!! Player can even control a single Soldier and uses his multi Abilities!! Hei Dude you can check out my Albums and search for Men of War Screen shots!!
Well ))) MoW is made by the Ukrainian guys I wouldn't say it's the best, it's just one of many... Sorry but that's my opinion. There're so many wargames providing is with single-soldier gameplay that i'm sick and tired of these. I'd better play something Total War style! I will never belive that anyone can win the war controlling a single tank, slodier or assault gun. But anyway Company of Heroes is better ))) And I'd say that Men of War goes right before Total War, Order of War, World in Conflict and Red Alert ))) So I'd better stick to those.
Its not a single soldier gameplay. It has about the same war scale as CoH. But you can go into direct control whenever you like, with any unit. You can fight large battles in MoW, however smaller fights with a few tanks are normaly more fun, since then you actually got time to micro. Large battles most of the time just seem to turn in to a mindless spam, thats what makes Order of war was so bad, same goes for the large CoH battles, its only really good in 1vs1s and 2vs2. You should try MoW, atleast if your intressted in ww2, it may have some horrible voice acting and is unpolished in some places. But it has so many good features and once you have had some tank battles in MoW, the CoH tanks feels like toys(still enjoy CoH in other ways)
I've tried MoW )) It has far to go to be equal at least to Company of Heroes. Large-scale battles with hundreds of troops like in Total War, Order of War, World in Conflict and sometimes in Company of Heroes make people enjoy the game but not struggling while trying to control every single unit. I've got tired of controlling everyone on the battlefield in MoW after the second mission. Basicly I turned to selecting everyone at a time... However I really enjyed the way the troops are organized and controlled in Order of War and Total War. That left me some time to enjoy the game from other points of view...
I'll have to disagree with you there...Hearts of Iron series pops to mind as being the best RTS game EVER. I think you have to be more specific in classifying Men of War. I'm not sure exactly how to term it, but if its on the same scale as Company of Heroes, then it is not a very 'large' game strategically. The idea behind being able to control a unit during the actual battle is interesting but it seems to have little effect on the outcome of the battle (especially larger ones) in terms of what one man can do.
I love that game! It is the kind of game where everything can go wrong, or just go as you have planned, i mean that the infantry on both sides have the same health, it is just they way you attack/defend, if you fail in one way, you can allways try the other way(If you have enough men and tanks...)
Well..umm...Mussolini... I ment more standard RTS style, like C&C and i haven't played hearts of iron(thought it was turn based anyway). Anyway back to this whole debate about CoH. CoH is a great game and have played it for like 2 years. But when your saying MoW has long ways to go to become as good as CoH then your wrong. Sure CoH has many enjoying Features that MoW hasn't but its also the other way around in many ways. You should try to play MoW online and give it some time, Its a hard game to get in to, I know people with several hundred games and they still kinda suck. Personaly i have really begun to love the Realism in MoW. It may be very punishing sometimes if you just make one misstake, but its also so damn rewarding when you pull some crazy **** off. Like when you sneak up to heavy tank and disable it with one cheap infantry guy, or flank a King tiger and kill it with 1 shot from your hell cat, or accumilate a shitload of tank kills with your Tiger. In CoH its just fight with tanks 10 meters away from eachother, hit points vs hit points, "Ohh now i got shot 5 times, now its time to explode" In MoW you get to utilize your army and fight like you would in a real war. An Example, you can't just run up to an enemy tank and shoot it with your bazookas, like you do in CoH. You have to use tactics, sneak up to it or it will just mow you down with its 2 or 3 mgs. But its true MoW is alot about Microing and if you don't like it its probably not a game for you.
Games like Red Orchestra/Darkest Hour are much more realistic. Even WWII Online. And the turn-based Combat Mission trilogy (Beyond Overlord, Barbarossa to Berlin, Afrika Korps).
Mussolini Red Orchestra, WWII Online is not RTS. RTS= Real Time Strategy. MoW has realistic elements in it. But obvious stuff like Gun ranges and the fact that you can repair a damaged track in 1 min isnt realistic. But you kinda have to have stuff like that for gameplay reasons. Also MoW actually outpreformes even FPS games like Red Orchestra and WWII online when it comes to Tank combat, Shell penetration, physics like shooting through obstacles, killing individual crew members, Blowing of Turrets with High calliber HE Rounds, Disabling indivindual parts of the tank, Conccusing the Crew and much more.... Most stuff that not really any other Games has. You can even set engines on fire with a well placed Molotov Coctaile or even shoot right through the tank if you got a very powerfull gun.
I never claimed that either game was a RTS, just much more realistic. In RO, penetration angles and areas are important. Certain tanks can't kill other tanks at range unless they score a shot in the sweet spot. I've also seen instances of RO tanks being tracked, having their sights damage, or their main gun disabled. All are also possible in WWII Online, including having various crew members killed and various parts of the tank destroyed or damaged. Tank Combat is also about what type of round you use and where you hit the enemy tank. ATR can also penetrate certain tanks or parts of tanks and of course Light Armored Vehicles. The best shell penetration physics etc is of course in Combat Mission series. Nothing comes close to it IMHO in regards to that.
Yes well judging by the topic, you maybe should have guessed i was talking about RTS games. Anyway pretty much everything you described is also in MoW. Shell penetration depends alot on the ammount of armor, Sloping and the angle your firing at. You can even kill tanks by shooting it in the belly if it for example climbs a hill(Tho its very rare). Haven't played Combat mission however. Heres a vid that display some of the Physics from the MoW beta. YouTube - Men of War Gameplay Movie 05
You sound like PR agency ))) You really have no need in promoting your game here ))) Nevertheless I'd better stick to CoH, WiK and OoW. 2 Mussolini Hearts of Iron is one of my favourite. I've purchase the 3rd part not long ago and still enjoying it.
Haha no im no PR dude, but i just enjoy the game, so i just tried to discribe why its a good game for ww2 intressted people.
Hehe True, but i just got kinda supriced when i joined that the forum had combat mission section etc.. But no SoE/FoW/MoW section.
Don't be so much surprised!! I really love Men of War ,because it contains Centurion Mk2!!!! which is as I guess the greatest Tank ever!! and here is an Isreali Centurion in Beirut 1982 : Look how great ist looks!!
RTS is more like larger scale, hence...strategy. Something like C&C, which, in reality, is also pretty tactical. Nothing is truly strategic except HOI, EU, or other such games. Total War might classify just because of the scope. Men of War is more along the lines of...RTT, or real time Tactical. Or its...an ARTSPBITSWISUATPODCOSUBTP...game. A Real-Time Slow-Paced But Intricate Tactical Simulator With Interactive Single Units And the Possibility of Direct Control of Some Units By the Player.
Based on the video's you showed it seems to be a spin of (or vice versa) of the game Faces of War. In Faces of war you can control single men and if they throw grenades, where they directly shot, or take direct contorl over the tank or field gun, however. It is not really a RTS game despite if it is claimed to be. There is no real strategy involved in it, obviously there is the standard,'don't charge the enemy line with a single tank on a frontal assault'. but the placement of a machine gun point is not as important as say it would be in the Combat Mission series, where one well placed MG can hold a entire company for a short time. It FoW, or this MoW game, simply charging the enemy with enough men will get the job done, which is clearly a Red Alert type game, who ever has the most men wins regardless of the type. The other problem is the realism. It is no where as high as you claim it to be, a single unit of 5 men will be hard placed to attack a prepared enemy company of some 100 men, even with a tank. The algorithims for working out if a shell beats a type of armour is absolutely without a doubt is at its best in the combat mission series. In this game the game takes into account, distance, velocity, wieght, angles, wind, experience, sloped armour, LOS, as well as many other factors, and this is even before it actually figures out if the shell caused any damage, and even if it hit. There are no hit points, or health and when men die, thats it they are gone for good. Personally this game is no where as good as you say it is.
Tomcat, Men of War is a sequal to faces of War...its made by the same people... And it is not realistic at all. None of the entire trilogy are, i once took out an entire german artillery battery with one man. And I like how an 122mm tank gun has a range of about 180 yards. Dont get me wrong I love the game, but only because its fun to sneak a lowly infantry soldier up behind that JagdTiger and plant some dynamite. And how in MP you can revive a soldier who took a direct hit from an 88mm HE round. Like other have said, it doesn't even come close to the level of realism in the Combat Mission series has.
