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  1. brndirt1

    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    Unforeseen consequences;

    Cities around the country that have installed energy-efficient traffic lights are discovering a hazardous downside: The bulbs don't burn hot enough to melt snow and can become crusted over in a storm _ a problem blamed for dozens of accidents and at least one death.

    "I've never had to put up with this in the past," said Duane Kassens, a driver from West Bend who got into a fender-bender recently because he couldn't see the lights. "The police officer told me the new lights weren't melting the snow. How is that safe?"

    Many communities have switched to LED bulbs in their traffic lights because they use 90 percent less energy than the old incandescent variety, last far longer and save money. Their great advantage is also their drawback: They do not waste energy by producing heat.

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    Energy-efficient traffic lights can't melt snow

     
  2. 107thcav

    107thcav Member

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    Good post Clint. Where does it all end. I am all for saving the Earth but come on it just seems like there should be a better way to do this. Like a lens cover thats slanted down to keep snow from covering it.
     
  3. sniper1946

    sniper1946 Expert

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    your right! its that simple eric,but no one saw that coming,ha! ha!....ray..
     
  4. mikebatzel

    mikebatzel Dreadnaught

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    While I don't know about the lights in Scranton, there was one light around my old apartment that had the sun directly behind it, blinding anyone who tried driving through the intersection. Common sense said if you couldn't see the light, stop anyways and make sure. If you don't know if your light is green or red, assume it is red.
     
  5. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Traffic Lights? We just got us one stop sign on Main street. More of a request really.
     
  6. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

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    Let's add heaters and an automatic thermostat along with some sensors to determine if the light is needing heating. Done properly this can completely offset the savings realized with the LED bulbs! Brilliant!
     
  7. brndirt1

    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    I’ve got an idea, let’s put a solar voltaic power source on the top of the traffic light, coupled to a lithium ion battery pack that will last for ten years without replacement, and couple that to heat coils inside the lens tied to atmospheric temperatures.

    Gosh, sorry. That might clean the lenses, and not cost anything to maintain after inital installation. Can't have that.
     
  8. macrusk

    macrusk Proud Daughter of a Canadian WWII Veteran

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    We have tall garden light posts in our garden - 3 bulbs and we changed back to incandescent for the winter, as we learned last year that by the time the lights were warm enough to cast light the necessity for them was over!! It took at least 20 minutes. The lights are a good idea, but not functional in snow or minus temperatures.
     
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    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

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    Brilliant! Just the sort of thinking we need. This way when the solar cells get dirty or covered with snow we can employ an army of government workers to go out in boom trucks and clear them off! Of course, having a solar panel several feet on a side to provide the power could complicate things, or, we could just roof over intersections with them.....
     
  10. Stefan

    Stefan Cavalry Rupert

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    Or indeed, as has already been mentioned, some sort of cover...
     
  11. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

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    Maybe we could get knit cozies for them.....
     
  12. Stefan

    Stefan Cavalry Rupert

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    Maybe that's a job for all the grannies out there since we are now all going to have to work to 70, it'll give them someting to do.
     
  13. tfer13

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    70? Stefan, why do you get early retirement???
     
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    Stefan Cavalry Rupert

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    'Cos I've got enough savings to knock off early ;)

    Just call me 'squirrel.'
     
  15. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Seventy? I find myself fortunate, lucky, and probably lazy. Retired in my 50's, but if I had to endure what I had to endure til 70? then just shoot me now.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Same here, Biak. I had a great 34 year run as a teacher, retired nearly 7 years ago at 55. If someone told me I had to go back to work, I think I'd kill myself. I have come to grips with the fact that I am inherently lazy, and I don't apologize for it.
     
  17. Stefan

    Stefan Cavalry Rupert

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    Lou, I might have to join that club with you, I'm far too lazy for my own good (how else do you explain the fact that I'm sitting around in my dressing gown on my leave week listening to desert island disks at 9:30 AM?)

    To be honest though it only makes sense for people to work longer, if you are expecting to live to 100 then people are going to have to work later into life, stands to reason.
     
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    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    And it only gets worse; I did spend almost two hours cleaning the garage yesterday while my wife was in town having dinner and visiting with a friend. Then when she came home I had to put together a new office chair she picked up for me due to my complaints of the wore out contraption I have been sitting in. Now I sit here and find it's too comfortable. Haven't done anything, don't plan on doing anything, and don't care if nothing gets done. Now if I can get her to bring me a cup of coffee and save me a trip down all those stairs I'd be set.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    That's fine, as long as I don't have to.

    Luckily, my den is on the first floor, so no steps if I need something. My big projects for today: help my wife with grocery shopping (oh, joy), take my youngest grandson Christmas shopping for his parents and little sister. Other than that, NOTHING!
     

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