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What German 3rd reich Organisation is this ??

Discussion in 'Medals, Insignia, Badges & Recalls' started by Heinrich, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. Heinrich

    Heinrich Member

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    Ive seen a lot of german membership pins and badges already ,but this one remains a mystery to me ..

    Z O W ??
    a strange longnecked eagle ??

    When i look at the tools pictured ony three things i can think off:
    1] some sub-department of the Reichsnahrstand (blut und boden ) ???
    2] 'workmeister' badge for forced labourers ??
    3] Ze Reichz militant potato-growers brigades ?

    If you've seen one of these before or can me tell me some more about its meaning that would be fantastic :p

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  2. colletorww2

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    Are there any markings on it?
     
  3. Owen

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    Looks more like a post-war Polish Communist agriculture badge to me.
     
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    i think the badge has to do with a of Polish underground organization.

    Z.O.W was a Polish underground military resistance organization created by Witold Pilecki at Auschwitz (Związek Organizacji Wojskowej)

    ZwiÄ…zek Organizacji Wojskowej - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    i'm not sure whether the badge has anything to do with Witold Pilecki's underground movement but it doesn't look to be a Nazi badge or medal ..


    Suzie
     
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  6. sunny971

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    AHH you beat me to it Kai .. lol
     
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    Great job to each of you. If this is an underground badge my guess would date it around 1944-45 as I don' tthink there were such groups in 1940
     
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    isn't that the same organisation but with early war emblem? I read on your article the lizard was used as early as 1939
     
  10. Heinrich

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    Thanks for all the responses guys .
    Badge itself is unmarked , theres faintly something on the screwdisk , AK.. and ?
    It was bought in Germany . below i'll include a pic of the back . I'll make better pics of it later but its still in the mail for now these two pics all i have.
    No doubts its original WW2 , all the rest of the pins I bought from the same source were all genuine German WW2 and older but he didnt know anything about it either .
    Offcourse I'dd love it to be a Polish resistance badge ..was thinking more of some agricultural lebensraum related thing at first but you guys are right , also the AK mark points at a Polish origin, i see that now .
    If it is Pilecki's org there should be examples around in musea or other collections to compare this one to those ?? Am reading stuff about ZWZ and ZO and the 44 uprising now but sofar havent found any pics or drawings of their emblems yet ..
    I hope one of our Polish members can give the definite answer about the Pilecki org . I'm just amazed about the twist this search is taking ..

    here's the back :
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    its size is 2,5 x 2 cm
     
  11. Heinrich

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    been quiete busy searching in the meanwhile and found this out sofar :

    The Lizard is OWZJ wich stands for 'Organizacja Wojskowa Związek Jaszczurczy' , and taken from the wiki article :
    OW ZJ became an alternate Polish military, a counterweight to the ZWZ-AK of the Underground State
    Organization of Military Lizard Union, Lizard Union, (Z) - a military organization established in October 1939 in Warsaw;

    according to wiki articles ZOW stands for ''Związek Organizacji Wojskowej ' and was formed out of ZWZ/AK .
    Association of Military Organization This underground organization founded by Capt.. Witold Pilecki in a concentration camp Auschwitz - Birkenau in 1940 year.


    Looks like these are two different organisations , ive found no articles stating ZOW used a lizard symbol , just that OWZJ did .No pics or description of ZOW emblem found sofar but pretty pleased about how well google translates the found polish pages .. thumbs !
     
  12. Heinrich

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    Z.O.W. Badge has been identified !!

    I would like thank our member Jonson for finding the answer . Thanks for doing the research on it Maciek ,i'm stunned by what you've found out sofar ..salute !!
    I would never have found this info on my own ..pity its not directly linked to Witold Pilecki but this seems to be from an even less known 39-45 organisation with a lot darker history .

    Miecz I Plug was ultra right and very antisemitic and very pro-german for an AK group ,the first things I now read about it are although they were part of the AK -Home army these guys acted as a split-up (but still within AK) and they started a full collaboration with the Germans ,while the other part of AK was still being led from London against Germany .

    It shows direct how difficult WW2 was for the Polish as they were caught between wall and ship and literally fought three wars at the same time ..
    one against the Germans
    one against the Russians and NKVD who killed many Poles when they got their hands on at that periode of the war
    one against themselves , like a civil war ..

    Seems a desperate pact to make with the devil and it has split the AK home army to the bone .
    Starting to understand just a little of it now , I think of all histories of WW2 this must be one of the least known histories in the west ,
    a daring subject for modern historians to put their teeth in .
    What just started with ID'ing a simple little badge has now triggered my interests to dive a whole lot deeper into modern Polish history ..
    Pity there's little to be found in english for share on the forum , but sofar found some info in german and google translated Polish

     
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    Not quite as innocent an organisation as I first thought then.
     
  14. Heinrich

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    Nein , definately not Wessex ..but in the end we were all a little right :D.
    its awesome to puzzle it out groupswise and see its history come out .
    Polish history this way is all new to me ,( besides the general schoolbook info and knowing the Free Polish in exile were in the UK) , didnt know anything about Poland military wise in their home country during WW2. Very complicated and highly surprising to say the least . ..i'dd like to read a lot more about it .
     
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  15. Heinrich

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    heres some more info about the Sword and the Plough , sorry for the robotic google translation . It states the Sword and plough was used to let them infiltrate the other AK and communist groups and were used as both secret and security police .


    This mood is reflected by an initiative of the group "the sword and the plow" (Miecz Pług i), which has worked since 1941 with the German political police in the district of Radom.[26] Before 21 May 1943 handed over the leadership of the organization in Berlin by Anatol Slowikowski ( "Andrzej Nieznany")[27] written memorandum, was "addressed to Her Excellency the Chancellor and Supreme War Lord, Adolf Hitler." It was pointed out that in contrast to all other groups in the country - from the National Democracy of the AK to the Communists - the group "the sword and the plow," a "completely new movement" represents, "whose ideology is based on the harsh reality" . One was of the opinion that now the right moment had come to fight "shoulder to shoulder" with the German armed forces against the enemies of Europe - the Bolsheviks. They suggested that "with the help of Germany, the army and the security forces" to establish the Polish armed forces who were supposed to fight under German leadership against Bolshevism. In addition, they offered "loyal" cooperation in the employment and economy, "discharge" of the German administration, "merciless" war with the "bandits, partisans, Jews and Freemasons," and with "all the foreign agencies. They undertook to prepare the Polish people to the "final" duties after the war, which should be realized, of course, recognized as among the German leadership in Europe. Finally, it was stated that it places no conditions and was ready to make your own determination with a "blood sacrifice" to the test. "We are fully aware," it said in the memorandum that "the only way we can save the Polish people and our homeland from Bolshevisation and destruction."

    The proposal by the group "i Miecz Pług" sparked an exchange of letters between the Chief of the Reich Chancellery, Hans Lammers Hans Frank and the Governor and the Chief of the RSHA Ernst Kaltenbrunner, who were asked about their perception. Both waved off by pointing to the fact very little influence of Miecz Pług i "in Polish society. It was noted that "MiP" although the only political grouping was not only traditionally anti-Soviet but also anti-British, anti-Sikorski, and was pro-German. Kaltenbrunner concluded the discussion by stating:

    "I think it is sufficient under the present situation, if the connection to, MiP 'will continue to be maintained in a cautious way given the task of men of the security police, the intelligence organization for its exploration activities against the communist and other national Polish resistance groups within the General Government and the annexed eastern territories begins. "
     
  16. Jonson

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    I see you found more info Heinrich.Gratz.
    PS. I found this organisation thx to my friend, he tells me that it is strange that Pilecki make badge where eagle is without crown, and this was a great tip. This was so obvious i do not know why o dont see it at first.
     

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