outrage over holocaust artifacts sold on internet

There has recently been an uproar of people selling holocaust artifacts from concentration camps on the internet. Some believe that it's a sacred piece of holocaust history and should not be sold over the internet for it cheapens the memory of holocaust victims. Others believe it's an important piece of history to own. There is a website on the interent that sells concentration camp and other holocaust artifacts. Quite amazing these artifacts have survived but at the same time difficult to see.. especially the dolls.. I can't imagine what those poor children went through.

Jewish Holocaust Memory, WW2 armband, Yellow David star, JUIF, JOOD, JUDE, J

I like to get some input, what do you think? Do you think that holocaust artifacts should remain in museums and preserved or should people be able to own a piece of holocaust history?

The other question is in general, do you or would you purchase a holocaust artifact from Auschwitz or any other camp.

Here is the article regarding the subject...

Outrage at growing trade in Holocaust artefacts taken from concentration camp victims | Mail Online

 

do I agree with it! no, would I want it? no.. but it's been going on for a long time suzie, and it's part of the WWII artifact collecting? is it right? probably not..ray..

 

No I would not want to buy them, but I would not deny others the opportunity to buy them if they wished.

KTK

 

Are they genuine or fakes? I believe that these items should go from one collection into another (or a museum) over the generations, if they are not sold , how would they end up? Destroyed and forgotten . At least if they belong to a collection they would be saved and kept intact for future generations. There should also be a distinction between historical object collcetors and sick people who have a fetish for those . It's a matter of respect.

 

much agreed with you all..

Put it this way.. if it were militaria collections.. you wouldn't want rommel's Pour le merit in the hands of a collector. It could get damaged or go missing. It belongs in a museum.

But there is nothing wrong with collecting war medals or other smaller items.

I think this applies to holocaust items too.. I think there is no harm in purchasing or owning something small and common, like an armband or star of david patch for example. it's the other more rare and valuable artifacts that belong in a museum, like a childs doll found in Auschwitz (or anything found in auschwitz)... luggage or personal belongings of murdered victims.. they belong safely in a museum for the next generations to view.

I am pretty sure that site is authentic, the items look real. there is some pretty sick items available on the site. for example, someone's gold teeth. I think somthing like that should not be available for purchase. just Freaky.

Several weeks ago, a man in Montreal was scrutinized for trying to sell a bar of soap that was supposedly made from human fat from one of the camps. There is no proof that the soap is what it is, however it is known to be from that era. That is just sick and twisted.

Especailly with the growing numbers of holocaust deniers, artifacts could end up in their hands and destoryed. That would be like killing the vicitms twice.

 

I'd buy some of it cause I'd give it a great home, but I agree that they shouldn't be sold. It's just like the people who buy anything Nazi and burn it. That's why the armbands are hard to come by, and the flags.

 

So it's okay to buy firearms, helmets, and field gear that millions of men used to kill each other, but it's bad when you buy apparal that one holocaust victim wore? Personally, if I saw some holocaust memorbilia, I'd buy it for my collection. Don't see the difference between that and a Japanese sword, an SS Helmet, or an Ike jacket.

 

As heartless as it sounds, I have to agree, people want these things because they are a part of history. Whether it is right to want them really goes toward your personal motivation. I have a '03 Springfield that was made in 1910. It was probably used in France somewhere as that is where my great grandfather brought it back from. Did the man using it ever kill Germans? Was it collected off a battlefield from a dead sodier? These are not the questions I ask, or the things I focus on when I tell people about it. It is a rifle that helped win a war, it is a family heirloom, it is fun to shoot. As someone interested in history I appreciate collectors who share their gathered items with their friends and others. One who stuffs things away in safe deposit boxes and never share, or have some weird mental thing about stuff from dead people... well the latter I have a hard time with.
As far as Holocaust artifacts goes, collect it, honestly share the history behind it, but most of all, don't let the reason for it's existance, or the atrocities committed to the original owners ever be forgotten or those acts glorified.

 

I'm proud to own a piece of art that was made by an inmate in St Sulpice in 1941. I cherish this and will make sure his memory will not be forgotten

 

I couldn't agree more Lou, the industrial murder of millions of non-combatants is an unprecidented horror. I am of two minds as to collecting or selling those types of artifacts. On the one hand I would like to see that they are preserved so we "never forget", and on the other hand making money off of their sales seems unseemly and crass.

 

Let me be the Devil's Advocate ICCI! I understand the Collection or Collectors argument. If it wasn't for small time collectors or
Major ones all these artifacts would of probably been lost or destroyed.

I look at this as an archaeologist would seeing all these artifacts of the Past.

NOWwwww This Object falls under the Same description. There's been claims that Nazi Soap was made out of Holocaust Human Fat???

Oooooooooo Yes in Montreal Canada A Major Collector on Nazi Or German army from Both Wars has in his collection a Bar of Soap
Supposedly made of Holocaust, Victims of Genocide.

Shop owner defends sale of 'Holocaust' soap​

Montreal shop owner's wares draw ire from Jewish groups​

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Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2010/03/26/montreal-shop-sells-nazi-objects.html#ixzz0pcrvpclQ​

 

No I would not buy any of it...It should be in a museum.

 

Anything made with human parts is disgusting . I can't imagine people collect those, when I mention relics I think about postcards, authentic documents, gear, ink stamps etc...

 

Suzie

you have any Jewish friends ? if so ask them for their opinion, it maybe one-sided then maybe they don't care, those that do were the ones that remember those times in most cases.

 

this is German Red cross bandage, nothing to do with Nazi soap

 

Let's put the soap myth to rest shall we? That is a myth about the soap made from "human fat", it might have been experimented with, but on such a small scale that to think any true soap of this origin exists and is for sale today is ludicrous.

See:

The Soap Myth

and:

Soap from human fat? Discussion by Prof. Harold Marcuse

I am NOT posting the IHR site, as even this final link leaves it out not wishing to increase their "hit" total. The denier statements by Mark Weber are included sans link to IHR, or any other D. Irving defending sites.

 

I would not be one to want to by human parts, or stuff made from humans either. There is a huge market for that stuff though, they had to put restriction on shrunken heads from South America also. This is a good thing.
Dolls made by inmates clothing etc. is one thing, people stuff that's just really sick. I met a Holocaust survivor who bought a prison clothing set. He only did that to donate to a museum though.

 

Hello can anybody tell me wo and what this man is?
Thank you