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DNA tests reveal 'Hitler was descended from the Jews...

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  1. ULITHI

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    Oh no not again... :(

    Anyway, wasn´t it Göring who once said " I decide who´s a Jew and who´s not"....
     
  3. ULITHI

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    I find it funny that he probably could not qualify to join his own bodyguard (at least early on).

    Also, how are the Neo's across the world going to react to this?
     
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    That was the least of his problems in passing his own Aryan tests, not anything to do with Jews, or other races either. His father (Alois) was born out of wedlock, and as the son of an illegitimate father he couldn't pass his own race purity laws.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Probably the same way they have reacted for 65 years. It won't mean anything. One look at Adolf disqualifies him from his Aryan myth. Most Neos don't have the brains to see past their own hatred and biases. They'll deny this, just like they deny the Holocaust, or any other data which refutes their ugly beliefs.
     
  6. Volga Boatman

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    Nazi racial 'theory' was so much psuedo science anyway. Rather in the manner of Christian fundamentalists selectively presenting evidence to fit preconcieved ideas, instead of looking at evidence in a dispassionate manner and arriving at a conclusion based on the evidence itself.

    Jewish people had been around in Europe for so long that it should not come as a suprise to anybody that DNA from their particular strain of homo-sapien species should be present. The Nazi's themselves only required that your ancestry should be "Juden Frei" for only a certain number of generations.

    Likewise, pogroms against Jewish people were around for a long time. The earliest victims of the First Crusade were Jewish, slaughtered by Christians on their own doorstep. Why go all the way to the Holy Land to fight the Infidel when Christ's enemies were closer to home?
     
  7. Victor Gomez

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    I am glad to hear this news about the DNA. It does throw a veritable snag in neo-Nazi present day dogma. Don't hope for too much change as this is a movement less motivated by facts and more motivated with its goals of racial purity as the ruling class for humanity. Once I was hospitalized with a neo-Nazi as a patient next to me and he provided me with a speech as to why the "mongols" should not be allowed to do this or that referring to Chinese groups. I asked him why that was so and he said it is because "God made them a mongoloid race" obviously trying to refer to their name as somehow being associated with the genetic disease that causes mongolism in some children. I was a bit too ill to argue against this crass ignorance and hospital staff finally separated him from me due to his continually smoking cigarettes while on oxygen. That helped with my stress as I wasn't sure how he felt about me...obviously not of the ideal lineage.
     
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    Aren't we are all descending from African ancestors.... ?
     
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    I thought they didn't have any DNA from Hitler? The whole burned-body-unrecovered sort of thing...
     
  10. ULITHI

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    Don't the Russians have a piece of his skull in their archieves? It might have some skin or something on it.

    Also, didn't Hitler have a nephew in the U.S. Navy? Maybe his descendents?
     
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    Well the article did say that they 'traced down" a few of his relatives, but Patrick Hitler (USN) wasn't mentioned, and his kids have sworn to not have children so the Hitler line dies out. Or at least so it doens't continue beyond themselves. I doubt they would participate in this.

    Now, Hitler's sister Paula's remains would have been the "best evidence" source since they actually shared both a father and mother (Alois and Klara) while none of his other relatives did. That bone set in Moscow has come under attack recently as "not being" Hitler's really, but that wouldn't matter since the Russian authorities won't release it for testing (last I heard).

    When some recently claimed the skull fragment was from a "female" the possibility arose that it was actually from Eva not Adolf, and had been mis-labled when stored.
     
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    Ppsh! Russians come from polar bears. I thought everyone knew this!?
     
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    Interestingly enough, African ancestry of us all has recently been challenged in Australia.

    Australian Aborigines have been present in this continent for at least 40,000 years that we know of, though the true figure for this is quite likely more like 80,000 years. Even if the smaller figure is accepted, that makes their brand of homo-sapien sapiens around for 8 times longer than civilization itself. African civilization, according to Donald R. Morris from his book "The Washing of the Spears" traces African peoples and divides them into three great migratory waves. The earliest were the decsendants of Kalahari Bushmen, and these people migrated steadily southward, until displaced by a people called Hottentots, also from the North. Hottentots, in turn, were squeezed southward and Westward by cattle hearding peoples that modern ethnologists refer to as BANTUS.

    All these three waves originated from the northern part of what is now known as Ethiopia, and the origins of these migrations lay even further northward, bringing about the tantalizing possibility that Africa itself was colonised.....and the oldest known peoples from anywhere else that have any DNA links are none other than Australian Aborigines.

    The Aboriginal people have been here for so long that they, themselves, have forgotten where and how they came to be here. It's not beyond the realms of imagination that migrations BEGAN from Australia, with people here getting out of the continent to move to richer hunting grounds. This migration could have been stopped altogether by rising sea levels associated with the end of the last ice age, resulting in the trapping of Australian aborigines on the continent, rather than the other way around. Certainly, the wild game needed for hunter gathers is absent from Australia in the main, so the argument makes sense. Why would people migrate into a land mass that had poorer resources for their style of living?
     
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    In any case, don't these Neos understand that good genetic stock derives from a WIDE VARIATION in the mixture of DNA? Constant "inbreeding" leads to more problems, not less. One only has to look at the mixed race children here locally, all healthy, long lived, and exceedingly BEAUTIFUL to boot.

    You only have to look at what happens to dogs that have been inbread...they begin to deform, their lifespan shortens, and they are much harder to train, whereas "mongrels", with a wide gentic variation, are longer lived, healthier, and far easier to train.

    The humans of the future will be decsendants of a combination of all types present on the planet at this time. They will be healthier, more intelligent, and have far longer lifespans than we do. ONLY by mixing it up can we survive as a dynamic species.

    The birth of my daughter confirmed this analysis recently. My wife and I are from opposite ends of the globe in a genetic sense, (I am Danish-Greek, she is Celt Maori/Polynesian). My wife is 45, and had a 1 in 45 chance of a deformed birth, as opposed to 1 in 3,000 for somebody half her age. She delivered our child in just over two hours from first contraction to first breath, and our daughter is simply bursting with health and well being. And she's an attractive little thing to boot!

    Take that Neo-Nazi "theorists'! Your dogma makes no sense in the real world. The future of our species in the hands of racial 'mixtures' whether these idiots like it or not. How that must make these fools SQUIRM!!
     
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    @ Volga you are comparing humans to animals.
     
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    Ah, we all came from the same "pond sludge", can't we all just get along?
     
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    dumbest news story ever. I mean come on, seriously. Ulithi's right by the way, no one is inherently better than anyone
     
  18. Victor Gomez

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    Volga, I am so much of the same opinion on the beauty and improvement in congenital faults that can and often are reduced in the mixing of blood. Perhaps if we looked at all of nature the mineral kingdom, the plant kingdom, the creatures on this earth, and then humankind, we would notice that qualities sometimes go backwards if there are not some new elements introduced to the mix. I have nieces and nephews(mixed lineage) that I think look better than the generations they came from. They have enriched my life. On the other hand another relative who has nearly pure lines have children that seem to have so many problems, diabetes, some cancers, allergies, dislexia etc. I love them and cherish them too but they have more problems not less. Thank you for pointing this out concerning the so called "Master Race".
     
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    Just recently the genetic science community cracked the DNA code of wheat, they had broken corn, rice, and soybeans in the past. The reason it took as long to do wheat is that it is more complex than the other main grains. In point of fact the genetic code for wheat is five times longer than the code for a human.

    That is only put out by myself to point up that cracking genetic codes is no simple task, and to point out that there is only a 1% difference between ourselves and our nearest primate "relatives" (chimps), and inside of the human genome there is something like 1/10 of 1% difference between any of us alive today. Unlike our close genetic relatives (chimps) all humans have virtually identical DNA. In fact, one small group of chimps living in their own tribe can have more genetic diversity than all of the six billion humans alive today. This may be because of the Toba event between 65,000 and 70,000 years ago.

    When Humans faced extinction.
    By Dr. David Whitehouse.

    Humans may have come close to extinction about 70,000 years ago, according to the latest genetic research.

    The study suggest that at one point there may have been only 2,000 individuals alive as our species teetered on the brink. (of extinction)

    This means that, for a while, humanity was in a perilous state, vulnerable to disease, environmental disasters and conflict. If any of these factors had turned against us, we would not be here.

    Goto:

    BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | When humans faced extinction

    And this is to point out that finding "links" between Adolf Hitler and other groups he despised should NOT be much of a surprise. Only one of "huh", who really cares. Or should. The song Brotherhood of Man is closer to the truth than we thought.
     
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    Genetics is genetics. I suspect VB is on to something about expanding the gene pool rather than contracting it. Just my two cents. Old Adolf was around the bend on most things, especially his racial theories. Hogwash and poppycock.
     
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