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E.U calls France Nazis for deporting illegals

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  1. Skipper

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    I'm outaged. :mad::mad:

    With the EU, an independent country can't even deport illegals anymore without being called Nazis!!! :eek::eek:

    What should we do ? Keep the Illegals here and pay more taxes or send them back home?

    Well the EU says we should keep them ....... because they are Romanian.

    Mrs Viviane Reding why don't you take a couple in your private garden if you like them so much ????
    You failed to tell the whole story and add that those deported were all volunteers AND (paid!!!!) with our tax money. It costs a fortune to send them home, why doesn't Romania keep them for a start? Did you even mention how they are treated by their own government?

    Comparing this with the Vichy deportations is just outageous.

    Also I thought French is an official language in Luxemburg , why complain in English when talking to France?

    I fully support the government with this policy and I am ready to pay more taxes to get the illegal Gipsies home and let Romania be quiet. If they don't like the way we treat their gypsies we"ll gladly let them improve their conditions in their own country with their own money. I have nothing against legal gypsie immigrants, on the contrary, if they want to take the jobs we don't want they are more than welcome if they work and pay taxes . I'm against illegal ones and politically correct politicians.
    My 2cts and my rant. :mad::mad:

    EU chief Viviane Reding accuses French minister of lying over Gipsies' deportation | Mail Online
     
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  2. Richard

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    The EU is becoming to powerful as time goes on, one day they will make there move.

    Yes I am anti EU.

    Yes I am pro European.

    Europe dose not need the EU.
     
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    I'm worried about Europe. What you are becoming from what you have been is shameful.

    KTK
     
  4. Mehar

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    Aren't Gypsies a group without a homeland? Regardless, if Romania is being termed their homeland, aren't they allowed free access throughout Europe due to EU agreements?

    These accusations are probably being used due to the similarities of the time period, not saying I agree or disagree with them though since I don't know the full story.
     
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    THIS is the kind of thing that rips my bass raw. Its the damned pc croud and this is whats hurting the world and has gone crazy here too since you-know-who got into office. Im fully against any "world organization" ezpeciially something like the eu or any org like it. A Country has a right to enfore their laws and NOT to have to put up with BS from scum orgs like them and the UN.
     
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    Same here mate, my sentiments exactly. We also dont need the un trying to get a stranglehold on out Countries affairs either.

    DOWN WITH THE EU AND UN-and yaeh, i know that un supporters will throw bricks at me for this but I dont give a damn.
     
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    The EU like the UN is nothing but a SHAM and a waste of tax money to keep running. The eu is conning you all just like the un is conning us all.
     
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  8. Richard

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    So true...
     
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  9. Skipper

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    The trouble is that those we deal with are smart ones with EU passports....... I saw them steal a purse from a lady at our local flea market last week. I tried to chase them but they are so damn smart, they vanished within seconds in the midst of the crowd and the lady never got her purse back . The next day I went to another market and met the same guys hunting for purses again... Apparently nobody had busted them.
     
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    Since I can only look in from the outside, my opinion should reflect that. That said, I personally don’t see what is so terrible with sending people without papers, openly living in illegal camps back to their home nations with a small monetary stipend and free air transport.

    French authorities have recently dismantled more than 100 illegal camps and sent home more than 1,000 Roma, mainly back to Romania, in a crackdown that has drawn international condemnation. Sarkozy has called Roma camps sources of crime such as illegal trafficking and child exploitation.

    …"France has generous social welfare and is a defender of liberty, but we cannot accept that flow of people without any means to support themselves and their scandalous trafficking coming into our country," Fillon said after the meeting.

    …"Roma face discrimination in housing, jobs and education across Europe. As EU citizens, they have a right to travel to France, but must get papers to work or live there in the long term.

    As many as 15,000 Roma live in France, according to the advocacy group Romeurope. French authorities have no official estimate.

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    News from The Associated Press

    Am I reading this problem from an "illegal alien" (read Central/South American) problem which America is grappling with? If so Americans are not in any position to make judgments "for or against" the action.
     
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    I know England has a problem with the 'Roma' (aka Gypsies) too...they travel around, set up camp in parks, trash the place, rob people, steal stuff, etc and then make a hissy fit when the locals try to block them out of parks etc (one town even dug a trench to try and prevent their vehicles from accessing a field). Its kinda like their version of the Illegal Mexicans in the US...
     
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    And I have great sympathy for France in this matter.
     
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    Our 'Travellers' tend to be Irish and they appear to be above the law. As for the EU calling France Nazis' well this is the same organisation that when Ireland voted against the Lisbon treaty told them to go and vote again, they also told Austria they couldn't have the man they legally elected President because of his Nazis past. Now I may not agree with what he did during the war but if a nation freely elects such a man to power then it's up to them not a group of snout in the trough, Gravy train riding, unelected Euro commissars. Like Richard I am pro Europe but anti EU, Why we still pay about 1000 pounds per person a year to this organisation when our country is in so much financial strife I do not know. This is a group that's finances are so shady they have never been signed off by auditors. We had a referendum many years ago but our parents were sold on the idea of joining the European Economic Community, the Common market a trading community not the European Union a Federal union with it's own ministers, army, police, etc. etc.
     
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    Well the lady said she was sorry about her harsch words. In the meantime the EU is still threatening France for sanctions if they send their illegals home.....
     
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    I'm sorry to speak out against the majority but France is clearly breaking EU law. By these laws a deportation of other EU citizens which live illegally in a country is possible but requires an individual check of any case. A deportation of whole groups of persons is not allowed.
    France is a member of the European Union, the Roma are Eu-citizens therefore the laws of the EU apply which break national law.
     
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    Skipper, off the topic a little, but how is France doing with the "banning the burka" law with the Muslims? Is there still trouble with that? With that, and now the problem with illegals, I feel for you!
     
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    No doubt about it, the EU is trying to become like "the Feds" have done here. Whatever the Feds decide, they want the states to obey (Constitution be damned).

    A salute to France for its defense of its sovereignty!

    (And the French Senate voted to outlaw the full veil in France too)

    Viva La France!
     
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    Why don't they say illegals do not respect EU regulations instead?
    Again : nobody is forced is to leave :they are Volunteers and paid, nothing illegal here. The Eu makes people believe this is a massive matter, whereas every single case is strictly respecting the Eu regulations, it costs fortunes to send these Romas home and over the months we are talking about 1.700 people only , that's nothing compared to the thousands immigrating here. The EU has a hypocrit attittude, they don't want Romas but many members deport them too, yet they all single out one country who has the guts to fight political correctness on this matter. Should we let Romania send all her Romas here just because EU law allows them so now? If yes, then let France sends them back, according to these same laws too. It's costing fortunes and instead of being supported by the EU, we are getting a big stink some from politicians who don't deal with them on a daily matter .
     
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