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Pearl Harbor visitors now get Japan and US view

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  1. Spartanroller

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    The Associated Press: Pearl Harbor visitors now get Japan and US view

     
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    It's just more of the same old PC bu@@s**t that the "Park service" wants to push. Remember a few years ago the NASM tried to exhibit the Enola Gaye with more PC propaganda. US citizens who lived through WWII should be the only voices allowed on exhibits about WWII. Not recent WWII revisionist "historians".
     
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    I agree that there should be a 'sacred' and traditional element to the memorials and similar, decided by those who were there, but if the museum is showing new, and perhaps unseen by most information, I think that has to be a good thing. Presenting the other side of the story is not necessarily revisionist.
     
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    I agree. If the information is accurate I have no problem with. If it's present in an unbiased manner, ditto. If they start trying to make out Japan as the victim again, that's a different matter.
     
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    Absolutely agree. Would be surprised if they could make Japan seem the victim at Pearl Harbor though - whole war, different story of course, especially the end.

    Wonder if anyone on the forum might be headed that way soon and could give us a run down?
     
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    I agree. I dont want to know THEIR PoV, THEY started it, WE finished it. Thats all I wanna know.
     
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    Hopefully, that point of view will not be "watered down" to make the cliche that that "our enemies were not so different than us".

    Liking Babe Ruth is one thing. But it should also point out along the lines of what Samuel Eliot Morrison stated:

    "Japan was the only important nation in the world in the 20th century which combined modern industrial power and a first class military establishment with religious and social ideas inherited from primitive ages of mankind, which exalted the military profession and regarded war and conquest as the highest good".

    If they try to skim over that, I'd call shananagins.
     
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    I'd say that pretty much covers Nazi Germany too.
     
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    "Know thy enemy." The politics-by-assassination character of 1930s Japan is important in understanding why they didn't chose a different path, and why the attack on Pearl was "inevitable". It's an important lesson, don't let the "hawks" have the sole say in national policy.
     
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    I'm all for it, as long as it's not like the questionable stuff I saw at Yasakuni Shrine. Hopefully the displays will make it clear about Japans role in China in the 1930's.
     
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    That might be true but, one thing forgotten is that their ways of thinking back then is much much different than they way it is now. In hindsight, you can say what you said above, but back then it wouldnt wash.
     
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    I didn't mean to imply that 1930s Japanese could say anything against the empire-builders. "Politics by assassination" kept them quiet. When any young lieutenant could walk into the Prime Minister's house and shoot him because he suggested the the war in China was "not going necessarily in Japan's favor", they had to be very careful what they said. Remember, Yamamoto was sent to sea to avoid being killed by these guys. To clarify my point (apparently needed) Japan was under the de facto rule of the guys who were willing to kill their opponents to get what they wanted, a chance to go play with their shiny toys in China. (Okay, some people say "bushido" there, it really means the same thing IMHO.)
     
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    Allong this line I'd love to see the equivalant of Wages of Destruction focussing on the Japanese economy.
     
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