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  1. brndirt1

    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    I have run across (possibly) Adolf Hitler's first anti-Semitic discourse, published by himself.


    [September 16, 1919]

    Dear Herr Gemlich,

    The danger posed by Jewry for our people today finds expression in the
    undeniable aversion of wide sections of our people. The cause of this aversion
    is not to be found in a clear recognition of the consciously or unconsciously
    systematic and pernicious effect of the Jews as a totality upon our nation.

    Rather, it arises mostly from personal contact and from the personal impression
    which the individual Jew leaves--almost always an unfavorable one. For this
    reason, antisemitism is too easily characterized as a mere emotional phenomenon.

    And yet this is incorrect. Antisemitism as a political movement may not and
    cannot be defined by emotional impulses, but by recognition of the facts. The
    facts are these: First, Jewry is absolutely a race and not a religious
    association. Even the Jews never designate themselves as Jewish Germans, Jewish
    Poles, or Jewish Americans but always as German, Polish, or American Jews.

    Jews have never yet adopted much more than the language of the foreign nations among whom they live. A German who is forced to make use of the French language in
    France, Italian in Italy, Chinese in China does not thereby become a Frenchman,
    Italian, or Chinaman. It's the same with the Jew who lives among us and is forced to make use of the German language. He does not thereby become a German.

    Neither does the Mosaic faith, so important for the survival of this race,
    settle the question of whether someone is a Jew or non-Jew. There is scarcely a
    race whose members belong exclusively to just one definite religion.

    Through thousands of years of the closest kind of inbreeding, Jews in general
    have maintained their race and their peculiarities far more distinctly than many
    of the peoples among whom they have lived. And thus comes the fact that there
    lives amongst us a non- German, alien race which neither wishes nor is able to
    sacrifice its racial character or to deny its feeling, thinking, and striving.

    Nevertheless, it possesses all the political rights we do. If the ethos of the
    Jews is revealed in the purely material realm, it is even clearer in their
    thinking and striving. Their dance around the golden calf is becoming a
    merciless struggle for all those possessions we prize most highly on earth.
    The value of the individual is no longer decided by his character or by the
    significance of his achievements for the totality but exclusively by the size of
    his fortune, by his money. The loftiness of a nation is no longer to be measured by the sum of its moral and spiritual powers, but rather by the wealth of its material possessions.

    This thinking and striving after money and power, and the feelings that go along
    with it, serve the purposes of the Jew who is unscrupulous in the choice of
    methods and pitiless in their employment. In autocratically ruled states he
    whines for the favor of "His Majesty" and misuses it like a leech fastened upon
    the nations. In democracies he vies for the favor of the masses, cringes before
    the "majesty of the people," and recognizes only the majesty of money.
    He destroys the character of princes with byzantine flattery, national pride
    (the strength of a people), with ridicule and shameless breeding to depravity.
    His method of battle is that public opinion which is never expressed in the
    press but which is nonetheless managed and falsified by it.

    His power is the power of money, which multiplies in his hands effortlessly and endlessly through interest, and which forces peoples under the most dangerous of yokes. Its golden glitter, so attractive in the beginning, conceals the ultimately tragic consequences.

    Everything men strive after as a higher goal, be it religion, socialism, democracy, is to the Jew only means to an end, the way to satisfy his lust for gold and domination.

    In his effects and consequences he is like a racial tuberculosis of the nations.
    The deduction from all this is the following: an antisemitism based on purely
    emotional grounds will find its ultimate expression in the form of the
    pogrom. An antisemitism based on reason, however, must lead to systematic
    legal combatting and elimination of the privileges of the Jews, that which
    distinguishes the Jews from the other aliens who live among us (an Aliens Law).

    The ultimate objective [of such legislation] must, however, be the irrevocable
    removal of the Jews in general. For both these ends a government of national strength, not of national weakness, is necessary.

    The Republic in Germany owes its birth not to the uniform national will of our
    people but the sly exploitation of a series of circumstances which found general
    expression in a deep, universal dissatisfaction. These circumstances however
    were independent of the form of the state and are still operative today. Indeed,
    more so now than before. Thus, a great portion of our people recognizes that a
    changed state-form cannot in itself change our situation. For that it will take
    a rebirth of the moral and spiritual powers of the nation.

    And this rebirth cannot be initiated by a state leadership of irresponsible
    majorities, influenced by certain party dogmas, an irresponsible press, or
    internationalist phrases and slogans. [It requires] instead the ruthless
    installation of nationally minded leadership personalities with an inner sense
    of responsibility.

    But these facts deny to the Republic the essential inner support of the nation's
    spiritual forces. And thus today's state leaders are compelled to seek support
    among those who draw the exclusive benefits of the new formation of German
    conditions, and who for this reason were the driving force behind the
    revolution--the Jews. Even though (as various statements of the leading
    personalities reveal) today's leaders fully realized the danger of Jewry, they
    (seeking their own advantage) accepted the readily proffered support of the Jews
    and also returned the favor. And this pay-off consisted not only in every
    possible favoring of Jewry, but above all in the hindrance of the struggle of
    the betrayed people against its defrauders, that is in the repression of the
    antisemitic movement.

    Respectfully,
    Adolf Hitler


    (the spacing didn't translate well from the "text format" I found it in. Sorry 'bout that!)
     
  2. Gebirgsjaeger

    Gebirgsjaeger Ace

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    He was a Master-of-Art. The art to mix up the real facts and the truth with his race theories as you can read above. This was the thing that made him credible for his supporters.
     
  3. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    thanks for the adaptation to text format it helps a lot. He's full of bitterness to say the least
     
  4. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    I here this sort of rhetoric almost everyday...today! I was having a conversation only yesterday about the holocaust...Saying that people don't want another holocaust, it could never happen again...it was hitler and now he's gone the idea of genocide died along with him....But thats not true is it? I beleive that genocide is very much a part of human nature...History is littered with examples of genocide or at least attempted genocide...Indeed the likeyhood that we, man wiped out the Neanderthals is one early (perhaps not so early ) example of this...Bosnia and Africa would be modern examples...
    If you have a poeples that are oppressed or importantly, feel oppressed by another, smaller group...then this "thing" rears its head. Its not the Germans or the Nazis we need to avoid, its the exploitation of the poor and oppreseed majority that we need to avoid...
    As i said, i hear murmerings like Hitlers even today...Be it about Muslims, Mexicans...or even investment buyers!
     
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    Sturmpioniere Member

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    Funny thing is one of the reasons the UN was created was to stop genocide...doesn't look like they've done a good job at it. If it happened in Europe they'd crap their pants, but in Africa, oh no, they don't need to be helped at all...

    As Skipper said, the man was full of bitterness. Theories have popped around forever, but I don't know his WWI experience to say whether it jacked him up or not. I looked at a Holocaust site awhile back(I forgot which one), that said a common myth was that the reason Hitler hated the Jews was because his family doctor was Jewish, and when his mother died she went through a very agonizing death, and that he blamed it on the doctor. However, the site also said this was completely false, and that he actually referred to the doctor as a "good Jew", and even after he became dictator he would send him postcards and letters. Just another piece of evidence to show he was a nut!
     
  6. Pelekys

    Pelekys Member

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    So he liked to be long in presenting his points of view from the begining.
    From Wikipeadia some additional info about the circumstances of the letter:

    'Hitler, who had been wounded during the First World War, returned to Munich in September 1919 to a propaganda unit run by Karl Mayr who assigned him to write a response to Adolf Gemlich's question on the Army's position on the Jewish Question. Hitler's response, dated 16 September 1919, was either written by him or dictated by him and subsequently typed by someone.[SUP][1][/SUP] Two copies of the letter are thought to exist. One in the Bavarian state archives in Munich which is typewritten but unsigned, and the second at the Simon Wiesenthal Center, also typewritten but signed by Hitler.[SUP][3][/SUP] The second version, now believed to be the original, was discovered in a Nuremberg archive by a GI, Arthur Ziegler, who brought it to the United States where it ended up in a private collection. In 1990, Charles Hamilton, the handwriting expert, authenticated the signature on the letter and, in 2011 it was purchased by the Simon Wiesenthal Center'.
     
  7. Victor Gomez

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    CAC you are right.....this type of rhetoric is very much alive today. Amongst the totality of minorities that make up our country a person notably identified with the "majority" finds within his view repression of "his kind" becoming the over riding problem of the day. This is a paranoia that Germans were able to expand and exaggerate for eventually justifying a "final solution". I think it is extremely easy for one to fall down that path in their view of others. This I do believe is a social sickness and we should all overcome by realizing that we each have a place in contributing something of value that cannot be displaced by hatred or mistrust of each other. Another thing to realize is that each of us in some way is a minority and each of us in some way is a majority. This is especially important to realize when contemplating our lives under our Constitution. It is there to protect all of us whenever we fall into the category one way or the other. We have to promote health in this view because sickness can spread. That is in my opinion what happened to Nazi Germany.
     
  8. FlynTiger

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    I am no anti-semite as some will quickly label me. I have to say that IMO the Israelis are acting like their former opressors towards their neighbors today, the Palestinians. I have zero problems against anyone for their religion, it is their actions upon wich I judge a person or nation. This seems to be taboo to speak of the Israelis this way today but IMO this would be a modern example of opression.

    FT
     

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