This is not helping your cause...

I don't think many people are denying climate change. They just deny the laughable conclusion that it is caused by SUV's and that if we turn over the energy sector of the world economy to a few bureaucrats it will all stop. Climate has always changed. It's part of the historical and scientific record.

As for the unicorns, any talk of a hunting season?

 

It (climate change) is and can be directly linked to the consumption of fossil fuels, both the acidification of the oceans, the warming of the seas, and the altering of "normal" weather patterns. In the distant past these changes took centuries, and the eruption of volcanoes, not this one. It isn't that the climate is changing, it is the rapidity of the change. Also, before we started monitoring the Co2 levels of our atmosphere in ppm, back in the late sixties and early seventies it was projected we might be in for a new "ice age". This was extapolated from sun output being in declining mode for longer and longer periods between warmer modes.

That is what amazes me when people doubt that the Co2 is the driving force, the sun has longer solar minimums, shorter high out put phases, and yet the globe doesn't get cooler, but warmer and warmer year by year (with one abnormal year) since we have started monitoring this problem.

 

The world has not warmed in the last 16 years, though we have been in a general warming trend for centuries. This isn't "sudden."

Here in Alaska, the Russians first mapped the extent of glaciers in coastal bays and inlets about 1750. By 1790-1800, Cook and LaPerouse made similar coastal maps showing the glaciers had receded. In 1867, the US Geological survey noted that the glaciers had receded significantly since the earlier Russian, French and British maps. Those glaciers continue to recede right up until the the present time and each new set of maps demonstrates this. They aren't shrinking any faster now than they were between 1750 and 1790 or between 1790 and 1867.

Global Warming is not a scientific issue, it's a political and economic issue. It's all about who controls the worlds energy sector. Do we leave it in the hands of the international oil companies or make it a cash cow for greedy governments with carbon taxes and regulations, or even complete nationalization (theft) as the UN is calling for?
If you control the energy sector, you essentially control the world economy. It's simply socialism of a different type, using fear and propaganda to push for governmental control of the economy.

 

Jeez, I crack one little global warming joke and its the JFK nightmare all over again!

 

It was Al Gore in a polar bear suit...

 

Et Tu Volga?

 

The last ten years have been the warmest on record. Read these 10 myth busters and then defend "hasn't warmed in 16 years". I'm back to the second half of 'bama/Georgia SEC championship.

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The Reality of Climate Change: 10 Myths Busted | Global Warming Myths & Climate Skepticism | LiveScience

 

The data below comes from 3000 sites around the world and was compiled by GW "believers." Even they couldn't monkey with the data enough to prove their point.

» Global Warming Stopped 16 Years Ago, Reveals Quietly Released Met Office Report Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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That certainly doesn't agree with the other five studies and measurements taken and recorded since 1979, there is one year of abnormal El Niño event in 1998. This compilation removes all the "static" of volcanic contributions, sun strength, southern ocean variability, and El Niños. I have never heard of that group you posted from, but I have heard of the others included here. Three of them are surface temperature estimates, from NASA GISS, HadCRU, and NCDC, the other two are satellite-based lower-atmosphere estimates from RSS and UAH.

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Sorry, Deniers, Study of

 

The group I quoted from is merely reproducing a graph produced by the UK Met, the same people who got caught up in the Email scandal a few years ago - the believers.

Allow me to point out the biggest flaw in all global warming data. A large percentage of the data gathered is taken in cities, cities which have doubled and even quadrupled in size since the earliest temps were recorded. Cities are heat islands, so if you take daily temperatures in downtown Chicago, Los Angeles, London, in 1925 and then compare them to daily temperatures in 2012 you are going to find higher temps. Garbage in, garbage out.

Until somebody does a graph showing ONLY rural temperatures, we won't even know if the temps have really risen over the last 100 years.

 

I think the majority of people think we are undergoing a climate change. Some believe it is a normal cycle which is geologic terms could mean hundreds or thousands of years. Others seem to believe it is primarily a product of human endeavors and is increasing as population grows and uses more energy.

Is not it possible it is a normal cycle exacerbated by human beings. As the consequences are possibly quite dire would not the prudent thing to do be continue our efforts to not pollute the environment and really express concern when India and China start burning fuel at the rate we do.

I see political ideology getting in the way of open discussion on nearly any aspect of life so all this may come to naught.. Perhaps we are destine to go the way of dinosaurs and some new specie will prosper , until of course, they too muck it all up.

I am a bit horrified by the disdain so many have for science. I grew up in rural Alabama and science education was normal. No one would have known what creationism was in 1955. I think in many ways we are regressing. Obviously I will pay more attention to Chicken Little in the future.

Kindly,
Gaines

 

There is no great disdain for science. There is only a dishonest and left-tilting media putting the spotlight on such people because it serves their own political agenda.

Google the terms "medieval optimum" or "little ice age" for evidence that the earth warms and cools with no input from mankind. The oddest thing is that the medieval optimum (a warming period lasting several hundred years) didn't create the catastrophe that today's global warming hysterics predict. In fact, during the medieval optimum human populations soared around the globe. Rains in central Asia brought a population boom to the mongol people. The Vikings were growing crops in their Greenland settlements. The Anasazi culture in the SW US exploded, growing crops on land that is too arid today. People had vineyards in the northern UK where grapes will not grow today. Global Warming was a golden age. Bring it on!