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New WW2 Movie: Red Tails

Discussion in 'WWII Films & TV' started by RAF21, Nov 14, 2011.

  1. Takao

    Takao Ace

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    CGI is only a tool. It can be used to depict realistic motion, just as easily as it can depict fantasy starship combat. It all depends on what the producers/directors want. In "Red Tails", they were looking to make an action movie, not a historical documentary or a "reality" movie. They knew full well that the aircraft could not perform some of the maneuvers depicted in the film, because their historical consultants told them so. However, the decision-I believe the term is "creative license"-was made to keep the maneuvers in, and not have the aircraft retain their historical maneuverability.

    I believe that can be said of all war movies

    Do your really think BoB/TP would have been that good if it was "condensed" down to 120 minutes? I don't think so. As for comparing BoB/TP to RT is a farce: There is no way to compare a mini-series that is slightly over 700 minutes(BoB)/540 minutes(TP) long to a movie that barely 120 minutes long.

    FYI, don't get me started on the historical inaccuracies in Band of Brothers.

    As to the movies that you mention. Well, IMHO, "Flags of Our Fathers" was a sub-standard production with mostly laughable CGI and a disjointed story-telling, but then again, maybe that was Clint's intent. I would much prefer to watch "Red Tails" again, as opposed to dusting off my DVD copy of FoOF. Now, on the other hand, I really enjoyed "Letters from Iwo Jima", Which I think is a far superior movie to either FoOF or RT.

    I guess the term "dramatic effect" is beyond your ken. Why did "Band of Brothers" feel the need to portray Winters' shooting of the German Sentry, in Episode 5 in a manner other than what occurred historically. Why did they really "put the historical twist" on Daniel Webster's character in Episode 8: If you watch BoB and then read Webster's book, you would think that they were two different people experiencing two different realities.

    Again...Two words...Dramatic Effect.

    Or is it "historical" accuracy?
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    I guess accuracy all depends on what photos you look at.
     
  2. Gromit801

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    Dramatic affect or creative license, is merely an excuse for getting it wrong on purpose. No defense to it.

    And keep the insults to yourself thank you.
     
  3. DocL

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    Minor historical inaccuracies aside, it is a good movie! I just saw it, and enjoyed it immensely. Well worth seeing. Doc
     
  4. A-58

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    Well, is that rap crap music used in the sound track at all? I saw a trailer for Red Tails and rap was the background music for the entire clip.
     
  5. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Liked the aerial battle scenes although the stop-and-turn movement for the fighter plane seemed to me a bit too weird. At times the jokes were quite poor. But liked it all right.
     
  6. lwd

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    I haven't seen it yet but would like to know the answer to this one as it might make the difference between me watching it and not.
     
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    A-58 Cool Dude

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    I'm still waiting for the same intel myself.
     
  8. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    I watched it...don't recall any Rap or any of the Wiki Wiki Bongo crap. It wasn't a good movie; it could have been, and it almost was. It came up short. In retrospect it seems, to me, like they were trying to tell too many individual stories.
     
  9. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    I'll see if it is available on Netflix then. Thanks for the info.
     
  10. PzJgr

    PzJgr Drill Instructor

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    I actually was surprised that it was a pretty good flick. The CGI was overused but like was previously stated, purely for entertainment. A good historical fiction flick.
     
  11. lwd

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    Won't be the first movie to fall into that trap. Wonder if they are considering a directors cut.
     
  12. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    These days who needs director's cuts anymore? They just do a sequel or a prequel or two, and in 10 years do a remake to start the series over again.
     
  13. belasar

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    Occasionally a sequal is as good or superior to the original, Sometimes a remake is also better, but so far I have never seen a Prequal that comes close to matching the magic of an original.
     

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