Gaddafi's death "war crime"

Nothing if not controversial.
"The death of Libya's former leader Muammar Gaddafi "creates suspicions" of war crimes, says the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court.
Luis Moreno-Ocampo said the ICC was raising the concern with Libya's National Transitional Council (NTC).
Col Gaddafi was killed on 20 October after being caught by rebels in his home town of Sirte.
NTC officials initially said he died in crossfire, but promised to investigate following Western pressure.
"I think the way in which Mr Gaddafi was killed creates suspicions of... war crimes," Mr Moreno-Ocampo told
reporters."
BBC News - ICC says Muammar Gaddafi killing may be war crime

 

After the ICC fully investigates the hundreds if not thousands of suspisious deaths while moonem more klodhoppy was in power, they should get right on that likkity split I say.

 

And maybe they could see about re-incarcerating the Pan Am Flight 103 bomber, murder of 270 innocents, that our friends in Scotland so "compassionately" released from prison in 2009 when he had "3 months to live".

 

And those hundreds of the UTA flight which crashed in Africa.

 

....and they alwas told him how important it is to use the " Safe" knob.....

 

That's part of a revolution, especially against a ruthless despot. You reap what you sow.

 

You could say they were following the accepted practice that they had seen for the past 40 years. Following the lead of the Libyan leadership and police forces in the way they deal with dissenters and criminals (said loosely tongue in cheek) he faced exactly the same justice that they had come to expect under his regime.
How can you say they were war crimes when they followed the behaviour they knew.

All things have to be put in context, they were not living in a liberal, democratic society, they were brought up under a brutal dictatorship.

 

Perhaps the Romanian model should have been used. If it was good enough for Nicolae Ceaușescu...

 

This is ludicrous, an "inside" civil war/revolution cannot be judged as part of a "war". If his demise is anything, it might be an assassination, or a murder. But not a war crime in any sense.

His own past actions removes that from the table, was his demise a retribution? Mayhaps.

Vengeance? Mayhaps.

War Crime? Not a chance at all to a logical mind. Decades of torturing, killing, and suppressing the lives of your own people while he enriched himself and his family are the crimes here. Not his own well deserved demise.

 

I see this as a power grab by the ICC. Nothing like the death of a leader to bring on the internationalists.

 

My heart cries when i remind him shaking Sarkozy's hand a couple of months ago,on the Elysee main stairs.My god ,what have we done!!!He's dead because of us,may we ever be forgiven one day!!My apologizes to his family,sincerely...France,land of the human rights and hypocrists.We really have to think before giving a lesson of honesty,hahaha!

 

I hope something got lost in the translation here. The west in general, and France in particular, are not the reason he was killed. His own actions and unwillingness to go gently into the good night when his ultimate fate was clear to all is. Some countries did offer him asylem, and all he had to do was contact the west through the media that he desired to step down on the condition he be allowed to flee in order to 'end the pointless bloodshead'. We, the west, would almost surely accomodate this in order to show how 'humanitarian' we are, and to silently encourage other despots to see the light. He played on the world stage, and knew the rules of the game, and therefore have no one else to blame but himself for his fate.

 

"lost in translation",an excellent film.I forgot to add this was humour.The position of my country makes me sick.We were always the first to defend the poor Lybian against the bad guy,until the smell of petroleum appears.Then,we become the greatest friends on earth,for finally bombing him..May be i have to stop making sense...

 

I agree up to a point that 'politics and oil' played their part in this. I see no one is in a hurry to take out the Assad regiume in Syria right now either. But Quadaffi played with the big boys of international relations by his own choice, and cannot fault being swept up by those very same geo-political games. Twist the tale of the bull often enough, sooner or later it will look for and take the oppertunity to get payback. As I am running low on metaphors and similies I stop here.

 

I'm annoyed his death is being used to play up some non-entity's media profile.
I doubt if many people are mourning Gadaffi right now.

 

Perhaps we should tread more lightly as our words spread far on this thing we call an internet. Lest our own be treated with like behaviors.

 

I believe his gun ended up somewhere else if the full story is to be believed...Not a nice way to go. Mind you he was a bugger himself anyway.

Just as an aside...I do them as you know...Do we all realise that there are demonstrations in Tripoli daily. Big ones. Do we all know or are we getting the information that the hospitals in all major cities are full up with gun shot casualties that have nothing to do with the war that has ended. All being treated for gunshots etc received after the war and still on a daily basis...Do we all know that the so called govt there still have not disbanded the militias. And that they are roaming the streets refusing to be disarmed and are making their own laws? Just lets not get into booking vacations there just yet gents.

 

So I'll put you down as a 'Maybe' for our WW2 Forums Lybian Battlefield Tour?

 

Getting killed after a successful revolution is an occupational risk of tyrants, and it's never nice. But the alternative is usually worse , despite what we may like to believe while in power they get lots of support and a comeback is always a risk, the new regime usually simply cannot afford to have such a figurehead around.
My fear is the Lybians have, with a lot of help from NATO, traded an average to bad dictator (he was worse than a Franco or Tito but not as bad as a Papa Doc or an Amin Dada) for a low level civil war but it's still early to make judgements, a western style democracy is a very unlikely outcome.