Anyone interested in some intellectual exercise?

Colonel Bobimoto, what is our next order of business?

 

I might suggest finalizing our destroyer, submarine, and escort programs so that we might begin considering merchant ship building.

 

I agree. We have had a great deal of interesting discussion, but we need to settle on a program and move forward. So in the finest tradition I shall suggest that someone else - Noka-san - draft a program and that the rest of us comment only if we have serious disagreements with it (this will call for samurai discipline on my part!).

 

Oh dear. I hope that my proposed program will do no dishonor to the empire. I think we are agreed that once we can settle on modifications to allow faster production we should continue to build follow on Akizukis and some kind of optimized smaller fleet destroyer of roughly Yugumo proportions, but with better DP armament and, if necessary, fewer torpedoes. All destroyers would be given improved AA and ASW suites. (40 mm, possibly 20 mm, additional DC projectors and perhaps DC stowage, and perhaps improved sonar if possible.)

I favor an improved 5"/40 over the 3.9"/65 for our fleet destroyers, since these destroyers will be more often used for independent operations and I am willing to sacrifice range and penetration for improved barrel life. I would leave the Akizukis with the 3.9"/65, since they will be with the carrier fleet, which will need the AA protection, and barrel replacement will be at least feasible, though not easy. Can we reach a consensus on this?

While we don't necessarily have to have the production stream of weapons completely up to speed, I suspect we do have to have the design finalized in order to avoid time consuming alterations to our hulls after the fact. How long will it take to finish the design of the weapon system? How long will it take to streamline our building process and redesign our ships to take best advantage of this? Once these two things are done I favor beginning to lay down destroyer hulls more or less immediately.

Sincerely,
Admiral Noka

 

I favor an improved 5"/40 over the 3.9"/65 for our fleet destroyers, since these destroyers will be more often used for independent operations and I am willing to sacrifice range and penetration for improved barrel life. I would leave the Akizukis with the 3.9"/65, since they will be with the carrier fleet, which will need the AA protection, and barrel replacement will be at least feasible, though not easy. Can we reach a consensus on this?

I concur.

.....once we can settle on modifications to allow faster production we should continue to build....
Once these two things are done I favor beginning to lay down destroyer hulls

Hopefully I'm just worrying too much, but I hope we're not pausing production while we improve our designs to speed up production.....I'd like to keep our shipyards working full-time even if it means a few more less-than-optimal ships.

 

Hello all,

glad to be back after some weeks of bad experiences and the fear about my mothe in laws live. Missed the conversation but was in planning activities... when some time was left for it.

Hope to participate much more now again.

 

General your absence from the council was indeed regrettable, but naval matters have dominated our thoughts so it was not critical.

I agree with Adm. Karonada that while we should strive to create the optimal ships, until they are ready for production, we need all the Destroyers we can deploy.

 

Too we just need to start because todays optimal is tomorrows trash

 

Dear Prime Minister,

thank you for your understanding. I will start up the planning for the Chinese Operations and did some already. Think it would be a next step to speak to Col. Bobimoto about the troops and or their transport to the places i need them. Hope the council will left some metal for my tanks, cause ships cant move on land. ;-)

Sincerely

Gen. Nishio

 

if we are serious about changing our policy with China is it wise to start new operations?

 

Steve i fear we have no other possibility. They don´t like us there and want to kick us out of their country. If we want to have their resources and no enemy next door we need to set up Operations. At least that long as they want to have a truce with us and are ready to sign a contract after our taste. Not the nices solution but the only possible.

 

We have to provide security for the population or it won't work. Our initial operations need to clear irregular forces from an area and restrict re-infiltration. Even if we begin to sway popular opinion over to our side, the enemy will use extortion to get supplies, and threats and violence to keep the populace in line. Once we've cleared an area we can turn over patrolling to mixed units. Preferably a Japanese platoon to a Chinese Company. It will allow us to provide mentoring and ongoing training. We can evaluate the Chinese unit and individual personnel. If a large enemy force does re-infiltrate, the Japanese portion should provide some stability until Chinese forces have gained sufficient proficiency and confidence. Finally, we will be there to prevent our new Chinese forces from preying on the populace. Trading one bully for another will not gain us anything.

 

General Nishio,
During your brief absence I laid out a general outline for our overall intentions towards China. I will re-post here for your approval, disapproval or ammendment. When we have come to a final decision on this, I have had our staff prepare a basic operational plan, based upon our private conversations. We can then modify the plan to a form you find acceptable and begin issuing orders to our forces.

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The next issue I would like to address is one that I fear I will not receive much support on, but one that I feel would be the correct path for us to take.

I have stated before that I feel we must establish a government in China that gives them a path towards independance. We need a government that the average Chinese citizen feels they have a say in. Popular support among the populace will allow us to marginalize the Communist Chinese forces and those of Chaing. Properly presented to the American Press and we can possibly decrease U.S. support and pressure for intervention. I would like to undertake several major initiatives:
1.) Begin the building of manufacturing facilities in the major urban areas of Hangchow, Shanghai, Tsingtao and Tientsin. It will require a large investment in skilled construction workers and specialists in manufacturing, we need to train a workforce and skilled construction workers for future expansion. I feel it will serve several purposes.
a.) Provide an economic boost in those areas.
b.) Employment will decrease resistance to the new government.
c.) These manufacturing areas will be able to supply many of the needs of our allied Chinese forces.
d.) Diversify our industrial base to make targeting critical manufacturing areas harder.
e.) Increase our industrial base and war making potential.
f.) Locate manufacturing closer to the raw material sources lessening the logistics load. Decrease shipping requirements and make the supply chain less vulnerable to interdiction.

We will insist that the new Chinese Constitution provide for protection of foreign investment. Initially, we can sell this to the Allied nations particularly the US as pro-foreign business. Once they declare war and our puppet Chinese Government comes to our aid as an ally. We will be free to seize western property due to their being a belligerent nation during time of war.

2.) Begin the building of or improving existing shipbuilding facilities, both naval and merchant, in the major port areas of Hangchow, Shanghai, Tsingtao and Tientsin.

In addition to the benefits mentioned in #1 above, we will have the additional benefits of:

a.) Chinese merchant ships and crews can augment our merchant shipping assets.
b.) Free up Japanese shipbuilding and personnel assets for use in other areas.

3.) Establish a Republic of China Navy. It would provide the following benefits:
a.) Increase National Pride and a sense of legitimacy for our puppet government.
b.) Provide anti-submarine forces to augment IJN forces.
c.) Provide indigenous escort assets to support Chinese merchant shipping.
d.) Provide an additional trained Naval personnel pool in case of emergency.
e.) Chinese Naval forces would free up IJN Naval Forces for redeployment to more critical areas.

Towards this end I suggest that we refurbish and return the cruisers Ioshima (formerly Ning-Hai) and Yasoshima (formerly Ping-Hai) to the RoC government. They can serve as flagships for two escort floatillas. We can convert a couple of the extant merchant shipyards into naval shipyards and begin production of a version of our proposed 445ton std. displacement Type-G Escort. They can be armed with main battery weapons we pull from our own ships that we upgrade. I would provide them with a modern ASW fit as we want them as capable as possible for that role.

I forsee us recouping our investment quite rapidly. We use our shipping to bring resources and food stuffs from the areas we will be seizing. We can use Chinese merchantmen to transport many of these commodities, from our Home islands, to sell to the Chinese populace and domestic industry. The money we initially invest and pay to the Chinese in our industrial/shipbuilding industry will allow them purchasing power. A proportion of this money will be spent on food and commodities from the more rural areas of China, they gain purchasing power. Domestic industry, producing consumer goods will also "spring up" to take advantage of this cash flow. The new buying power of the rural populace will provide an additional consumer base for these domestic manufactures. All will require the raw materials and fuel that we will be bringing in from the SRA. We will be increasing our revenues by selling these materials to the Chinese. An expanding Chinese economy will also provide a larger base that can be taxed at a lower rate to support war efforts in China. We have three options as I see it for supporting the increased Chinese participation in our military efforts. 1.) Pay for it ourselves. 2.) Tax the Chinese people at an onerous rate and create discontent. 3.) Expand the economy so the Chinese can tax at a lower rate, but on a greater base.

Post #2276

I intend for our industrialists to build, own and operate the facilities. I think this will address their concerns. Their greatest concern will be the safety of their investment which we will have the Chinese government guarantee, by legislating the rights of foreign property owners.

That was not my intention. The majority of the shipbuilds will be the smaller escorts, we will build some destroyer escorts as required to be most effective in their protection of assigned areas. Possibly a destroyer or two, nothing larger. If we do build any destroyers they will be the ASW escort type not a fleet or GP type. It will depend upon the projections of our naval officers.

Tanks and SP guns, nothing larger than a light tank, I don't see their needing anything larger. Our current policy is that once our troops fully upgrade to a new and improved weapons system we begin upgradeing the better Chinese formations ground or air. Our old weapons system the are now the Chinese frontline weapons and we can start producing them and the spare parts required in Chinese factories.

The attrocities committed against collaborationists or those perceived to be, by the Communists and Chaing's forces have been immense. Once they fight for us it becomes dangerous to fight against us. The population kow tow's to the strongest faction in the area for the same reason. I propose we form an actual democratic government, that these people can learn to believe in. Their own self interests and our economic ties will insure their alliance with us.

 

Post #2282

You are correct about the Reorganized National Government of China, the problem is it is viewed as a puppet government of Japan and therefore blamed for some of the attrocities the radical Imperial Army elements committed. We need a fresh start. First, we need to establish a press to spread our propoganda. Then we need to tell how the radical element within our Army in China attempted to destroy our own government and seize control over our own people. We need to stress that we identified and destroyed them. We need to lay the blame for past mis-steps at this element's feet. We need to begin to get the Chinese in Japanese controlled areas thinking that we will enable them to establish a government accountable to the people. We start in the major cities I mentioned, plus Peiping, and spread from there. We have tried initiatives to get the populace on our side but implementation has been haphazard. We need to do it correctly from the start. The only reasonable way I see to have even a chance at erasing past history is to dissolve the government and reform it. We also need to disband the military forces and start over, but using the trained service members as a trained cadre to form the new formations around. The military was created by our predecessors and is likely to continue to reflect their attitudes. We need to restart and indoctrinate all service members new and old in some basic principles, the military's subserviant position to the elected civilian government, their obligation to protect the people not special interest groups or governmental factions, the military's need to abide by certain laws including respect for the person and their property. No rape, no theft, no murder, no wanton destruction for no reason. We need to form the perception with the people that the Chinese military is honorable, respectful of the law and there as a protector against bandits, warlords, communists, and all the other entities that have exploited them. I prefer to raise them in homogenous areas, areas where they are from, troops from an area are less likely to commit depredations against their own people. Their chain of command would go up to their provincial government and be able to be called upon by the national government. This will prevent too much power being placed under the control of a central entity. They would be something like the United States National Guard, but would be full time not part time soldiers. This will also allow us to use the Chinese to act against a particular provincial governor if he decides he wants to become a warlord. We need to have the Chinese draft and adopt a Constitution conferring rights to the citizenry and then have the military swear an oath to defend them. We can include religious freedom as a right and thereby garner some good will from the various religions that the people recognize. Disbanding and reforming the government will also allow us to counter the pro-Chaing propoganda about the old government. If we do it correctly we can also convince the American public that we are on the correct path in regards to China.

Post #2290

My opinion would be to return them as is for the time being. Initially, I would like as many of our vessels assigned to escort work to have the best ASW fit we can afford. Their return to China is really a means to build good will in China. We are returning two marginally capable ships, comparable in size to a modern destroyer. The news will portray that Japan has returned two cruisers to be used in forming a new navy, for a new government, a govenment that has signed an agreement to set China on a path to Independance and self government. When we abolish the existing government we put out the story that it was necessary to eliminate the criminal elements and those bent upon exploiting the people. There will be the promise that once self-government is established within the local, then regional governments, there will be a national election where the people can choose their national leaders. In the meantime their local elected officials will represent them on the regional level. Then their elected regional officials will represent their local interests before the national government. A Constitution will be drafted and placed before the people for approval. A Constitution that will emumerate the basic rights that all people should enjoy, and set up a government where the peoples wishes will be represented. It will limit the powers of the national government so that ambitious men, with the most money and the largest army of hired mercenaries cannot take back the rights the new constitution will guarantee. We give them the hope an vision that China will again regain her former glory and prestige. The Chinese people will gain the rights an priviledges enjoyed by the people of the western democracies, but these same western democracies will no longer be in the position to exploit the Chinese people. We will have equality, something Japan pushed for when she, along with the the western democracies, fought and won the last great war. Something that despite Japan's service was denied in the Covenant of the League of Nations. Baron Nobuaki Makino, of the Japanese delegation said it well, "We are not too proud to fight but we are too proud to accept a place of admitted inferiority in dealing with one or more of the associated nations. We want nothing but simple justice."
The great Chinese leader, Sun-Yat-Sen, after the First Guangzhou uprising, sought refuge in Japan. His cause was supported and mentored and provided with financial assistance by many forward thinking, prominent Japanese. After the Huizhou uprising he was again forced to seek refuge in Japan, England, the United States and Canada. He was welcomed in Japan, but arrested in the United States because he violated the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882. Just another example of how western nations speak of equality but do not want we Asian peoples in their nations, treated equally or with justice. Sun then joined with revolutionary Chinese students studying in Tokyo, Japan. They formed the Tongmenghui and facilitated resistance and uprisings in China against the corrupt Qing dynasty. Again, Japan aided his noble goal. Finally, he achieved what he had fought so long and hard for, when the Xinhai Revolution ended the power of the Qing's and Emperor Puyi, over the Chinese people, and the Republic of China was formed.
One of his associates, Yuan Shikai, had powerful military forces, and while he played a large part in forcing the Qing's from power, he was ambitious and seized control of the government for himself, even proclaiming himself Emperor. Sun did not give up on his dream for the Chinese people. Wang Jingwei stood with Sun during these times and was one of his chief lieutenants. Upon Sun's death from cancer in 1925, one of his general's, Chaing Kai Shek attempted to seize control, the revolution splintered and the Chinese people again lost what they were so close to attaining. Chaing now controls an loose coalition of warlords and bandits that are more interested in what they can take from the populace than realizing Sun's dream for the people.

We in Japan are not without blame. We supported Sun's dream. When Sun died and China decended into chaos, a carcass for the different splinter groups to divide up and fight over, Japan sent tropps in to stabilize the situation. It is here we lost our way. There were ambitious men within our armies that attempted to oppress the Chinese people, to control our own government and turned their back on the principles we had sent them to China to protect. They did gain power, they did gain control, but good, honorable men in our government opposed them. This culminated in the recent coup attempt where they attempted to gain complete control of the government by killing those that opposed them, to include our own Emperor. Their rebellion was crushed, and they no longer hold power over our people and government. We now need to, we now desire to, help China overthrow the evil elements that control their government. The Chaing's and the Communists that wish to enslave, extort and oppress the people. We cannot go back and erase our mistakes. We can go forward, side by side, with the Chinese people and help them gain what the Japanese just recently regained, and help them achieve what Sun-Yat-Sen fought so long and hard for.

Post #2296

We also propose reopening China's markets to trade from all countries; this may seem a hollow gesture if we then go to war with them.
Very good questions Admiral. Furthermore I agree with the thinking behind your questions. Unfortunately, I do think war is inevitable. The reason is time. Now, that there is an oil and steel embargo in force against us, we only have a limited window before our economy begins to collapse. It is already creating hardships on some of our people, even though we planned ahead and stockpiled large quantities of fuel and resources. Chiang has a very effective propoganda machine at work in the United States, and those in power support and will continue to support him. We can, through an effective propoganda campaign ourselves mitigate the effect of Chiang's machine with the electorate and the isolationist politicians in Washington.
I do propose that we do provide the American government with an account of the recent events and allow them the opportunity to come to a negotiated settlement with us. We need to stress that their economic policies are destroying our economy and people. That we wish to avoid confrontation if at all possible, but will not allow our country to be paupered. We must however plan for their rejection. If they do accept and we can come to a negotiated settlement we cancel the military operations. If they do not come to a negotiated settlement we attack the British and the Dutch possessions, because to do otherwise would be to commit national suicide. We need to take our case not just to the American administration, but to the populace and opposition politicians. If and when war is forced upon us, we will have already made our case and it will be evident that war was the result of the situation we were placed in and not that we feigned negotiating to obtain a military advantage. Plus, we will not be attacking all the western powers, just the British and Dutch, we will be allied with the French and will make no hostile act towards America, or Australia or their possessions. I do not think they will be receptive to a negotiated settlement because underlying the entire situation is the wish to gain access to the huge Chinese market and Chinese resources. Britain and the United States both want this and do not look to share access with us. They wish to gain an economic advantage, as we ourselves do. The difference is that they wish to exploit the Chinese people, as we have recently done. Where our new course differs is that I hope to establish an economic empire free of western influence. Our industry requires the raw materials China can produce. We require a larger market for our industry to sell to. A China full of peasants will not have the purchasing power to keep our industry growing and expanding. A China full of educated, productive citizens, producing wealth and consuming products is to our advantage. There are two ways to increase economic wealth, produce something and generate money from the sale or invest in something and gain wealth as that thing gains in value or generates income. We, both the government and private industries, will be providing the financing, machinery and expertise to start the process. We will insist on China's guarantee of foreign investments, namely us. We will own many of these entities or a percentage of them. As China's economy grows our investments should grow also. As China prospers our businesses in China should prosper. ​

 

Best wishes to you and your family!

 

Dear Col. Bobimoto,

thank you for reposting the above posts. I agree that we can reasonably dominate this chinese bear when we will give him food and allow him to walk in his cage freely and unchained. It has the advantages you numbered above , but it will have also some disadvantages. We should be prepared to react quick and hard against the communist forces cause they will see this as our weakest point. And they are right about it. So we have to organize our forces in a way that will allow them to react fast and at place. It isn´t to our advantage when we have to send forces to beat local uprising rioting, when we need to march for days to get there. There is also the need of giving every higher chinese position a japanese mirror to control him. And in my opinion this will give some extra hours of work to our intelligence service to observe the chinese "Politicians". I really don´t trust them but i can see the need of giving them a bit of freedom. This huge country isnt to control completely with our forces, except we give up all the other places we want occupy. We need to install our army at every important place as possible. Important places are economical important cities and areas or strategical important places like main traffic knots, harbours airbases and so on. The rest of our plannings should go on like we discussed at our private mails. Giving the chinese forces weapons is a sign of trust. Some will missread it and will be happy that we arm our opponents but i think the majority will see it right.

That all is indeed a bitter pill, and a huge one but i don´t see any different ways to go, if we wont wear out our troops in hundreds of small local wars.

Sincerely yours,

Gen. Nishio

 

I believe we can minimize this problem sir. The Communists biggest advantages are the impression they will give a better life to the peasants, our plan actually does this, and an effective indoctrination program, we will match this. Part of the military training of our friendly Chinese forces should be daily indoctrination. Let me make a note of this: Establish political officers and Chinese counterparts. We just need to sell our version of a democratic, western type democratic utopia better than they sell their Stalinist workers utopia. To retain control they historically resort to force and violence against the people, we have done this also, but must resist the temptation. There have been a number of incidents in China where either the communists, but more frequently Chiang's Nationalists have carried out mass killings and purges during the last decade or so. We need to drill this into the people's heads. We also, I believe, after a year or so lure Sun-Yat-Sen's widow to return to our new government. After Sun's death she originally went with Chiang's faction. After seeing his attrocities and alliances with bandits and warlords, she went over to the communists, where she serves now. She is a true ideologue and if we can convince her that the new regime is the fulfillment of he husbands dream we can, I believe, lure her back. This would be a huge political coup for us. We will continue Japanese military operations against the main force Communist forces to continually push them back, keep them occupied and to free new areas. Finally, if we get the economy up and going, economic self-interests and an increased standard of living will provide loyalty to the government.


This is off subject. but imagine the possibilities. The United States has set the Philippines on a path to independant statehood. The Tydings-McDuffie Act, enacted March 24, 1934, has provided for Philippine independance after a period of ten years, 1944, so about 2 and1/2 years from now. What if we go ahead and recognize them, send diplomats, and confer with the Americans as show of respect for their position. We have the new Chinese government do the same. When we attack in the SRA we advise them that Philippine territory will remain sacrosanct if they remain neutral. Once we control the rubber and tin of the SRA, could we not trade that through Chinese front companies to the Philippines for products and materials we desire? The Philippines have significant iron reserves, a source for our steel. We can allow for trading in numerous other goods and commodities as long as we have a surplus in them. Can the United States really put too much pressure on the Philippine government, not to trade with China, without appearing to once again be taking on the role of colonial overlord? Would news of this sit well with the US public? Would not American businesses in the Philippines trade with Philippine businesses to secure scarce rubber and tin resources? We may be able to weave a web so complex that the United States has to accept the situation.

One thing I noticed when going over our current TOE's was the inclusion of a horse cavalry element in all brigade and divisional force structures. I would like to strip these out and consolidate them into their own formations. We could then use them to react quickly to enemy threats. We would need to insure we adequately train them in combined arms theory and practice. Once we upgrade to the new weapons/manning structure they will have sufficient strength to meet and defeat smaller threats. Larger threats can be prevented by the use of combined arms. This is more than using a mixture of weapons systems, it is the proper tactical use to prevent them from being able to react to one threat without exposing themselves to another. For example: Their best defense against us is dispersion. If our cavalry have sufficient firepower, they are vulnerable to piecemeal engagement and distruction. If they consolidate to have sufficient strength to challenge our cavalry forces they expose themselves to detection and distruction by our close air and artillery. I have, as you requested, increased our planned formation of additional airborne forces and the associated airlift capacity, they should be able to quickly react to situations that may develop. I also have guarded optimism that we if we can get Ambassador General Kourei Yuushou to get the German's to agree to providing us with plans and/or examples of their Focke-Achgelis Fa 223 Drache helicopter, we can use it as a quick reaction assault transport for getting troops to trouble spots and for the resupply of airborne forces. It is powered by the 1,000 horsepower Bramo 323 radial engine. We have smaller, lighter, more powerful radial engines we could use to increase the crafts lift capability. We have looked at it for ASW use, but could use it for our IJA forces also.

The establishment and building of a series of Forward Operating Bases (FOB) where a combined arms ground element will be stationed should provide a location from which we can quickly react to local situations when necessary. Forward Logistic Bases (FLB) which we have also planned for, to control major road junctions, in addition to having larger forces stationed there, will have the capability of supplying forces employed farther away from our current bases, and they will have an airfield to support close air support, transport aircraft.

And if they step out of line tragic automobile accidents, and assasinations by KMT or Chicom operatives do happen. Or evidence of criminal acts/corruption may suddenly appear and the newspapers we control will demand their removal and imprisonment. Things happen .

Yes sir. I would like to establish training bases at each of the five locations I mentioned, they will be our first areas for economic/industrial expansion. They will be located on the outskirts of the cities so that we can react quickly to any problems and there will be sufficient manpower to keep the indigenous military police forces within the city inline. These are also the locations (except Peiping) where I'd like to establish Admiral Noka's, Naval Logistics Command (NLC) China bases. Resources will flow into these locations from across China for transport to the Home Islands and supplies, equipment and personnel can be shipped in for distribution to your forces.

Yes, sir. Now that we have the strategic overview, we need to develop an operational plan and timetable.

respectfully,

Col. Bobimoto

 

Dear Col. Bobimoto.

i like the way you are thinking of some details and their solutions no matter if this are the Phillipines or the lousy working chinese car repair shops.......
i think we are aligned with some of our thoughts. The cavalry should be handled this way and i´m sure in combination with the Airforce and other recon groups it will work brilliant.
The Airbornes will be a very important tool for this purposes and the idea of having this helicopter will provide us lots of advantages in woodlands and mountain terrain.
My thoughts of getting quick enough to a possible rioting are more for the areas we dont control at the moment. The chain of FOB and FLB will guarantee us this possibilty at the areas that we are holding. But maybe the solution is easy to get when we show the population of those regions how good the people at our sector will live.
This "extra peace" with the Phillipines could be a key to our succsses. I would follow it and do more plannings on it. It could be a good we to make our enemy( the USA) to our supplier.
After reading this now it creates the question if the planning of my action against the Chinese (you will know what i mean) is the right one at this time? Maybe a sort of encirclement with only cutting off the people at there, from the good living of the others and a good propaganda could save us men and time???
How is the progress on our riverine?
And can you provide me informations of our best matching troops to my plannings? I will still need Infantry, Artillery, Engineers, tanks and as a quick response force some of our airbornes.

 

I do not wish to interrupt you gentlemen but your "dragon" has caught my attention. That it would be a good aircraft for deploying QRF troops I get. Would it not also be of value on our Akitsu Maru landing ships? It would seem so to me. They also seem to hold promise as ASW craft for our MAC ships, do they not? The payload of both our and the German AutoGyro seen to be their limiting factors, but this one would approach that of one of our Naval strike aircraft.

If this craft can be this useful to us perhaps we should forego asking for technical plans on the AutoGyro and request those of the Dragon?

 

Your input is never an "interruption' sir. Your input and questions have been critical to the progress we have made thus far. Comments and questions by yourself, and other council members have provided the meat on the bones of the skeletal proposals I have put forth. They have also raised issues that if we failed to address could have jeopardized our potential for success. The General kindly wrote:"I like the way you are thinking of some details and their solutions no matter if this are the Phillipines or the lousy working chinese car repair shops......." It has been questions and concerns expressed by all our members that has allowed for developing these ideas to their fullest potential and to consider most possible eventualities.

We have covered a tremendous number of topics in a relatively short period of time. It only stands to reason that some would slip through the cracks. The subject of the Focke-Achgelis Fa 223 Drache has come up at least twice: Once when discussing what to ask the Germans for;

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Out of character comment. This discussion took place around the time you were involved in real life negotiations trying (successfully) to find some real people to portray the Germans in negotiations with TOS. I think the other council members would be surprised at how much work you've done behind the scenes to make this project work. I for one thank you.

and again when discussing the very subject you are now addressing;

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The Kayaba Ka-1 Auto-gyro has been in service with the IJA since May of this year (1941), it was developed from the American Kellett KD-1A.