A bit subjective! "The twin Second World War clashes of Imphal and Kohima have been named as the greatest ever battle involving British forces. The two victories over the Japanese, which took place in the same region of North West India over the same period in 1944, were voted the winner of a contest run by the National Army Museum to identify "Britain's Greatest Battle". Taken as a single victory, Imphal-Kohima was on a shortlist of five battles which topped a public poll and on Saturday, they were selected as the ultimate winner by an audience of more than 100 guests at a special event at the museum, in Chelsea, west London. Imphal-Kohima received almost half of all votes. In second place was D-Day and Normandy, in 1944 (25 per cent), ahead of Waterloo, in 1815, (22 per cent), Rorke’s Drift, during the Zulu War in 1879 (three per cent), and Aliwal, during the First Sikh War in 1846 (two per cent). At the event, each contender had their case made by a historian giving a 40 minute presentation. The audience, who had paid to attend the day, then voted in a secret ballot after all five presentations had been made. The case for Imphal and Kohima was made by Dr Robert Lyman, an author and Fellow of the Royal Historical Society." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10008053/Second-World-War-clashes-named-as-Greatest-British-Battle.html
I agree that this is VERY subjective. A more proper headline might be that these battles rated number one among these who had paid their money, and voted based on presentations made by scholars. I guess that wouldn't sell many papers, though. Good reading, nonetheless.
What really got me were the comments at the bottom; some twat wanted to know why Crecy & Agincourt weren't included because apparently England (ie Britain) was "a nation state" at the time!
I try not to read the comments, since they usually add nothing to understanding the article. I went back and read some - I was right.
Ruling out air and sea battles seemed a bit much. Were the people who voted historians, or just people who filled seats and got their history lessons from TV?
I posted a thread allowing us to vote a few months ago....That does not seem right...The public including me voted for what they thought was greatest battle and then its ignored and some acedemics then say what was the greatest battle...Why have a public vote in the first place...?
As with most issues where a public vote decides an issue we end up with a decision that only a minority want. In this case as already mentioned it is a very subjective but also as given by such a small group totally meaningless. Brian
ONLINE VOTING RESULTS # Battle Votes 1 Waterloo 365 2 Aliwal 362 3 D-Day/Normandy 357 4 Rorke's Drift 168 5 Imphal/Kohima 164 6 Musa Qala 161 7 El Alamein 156 8 Naseby 121 9 Somme 85 10 Blenheim 73 11 Goose Green 65 12 Quebec 60 13 Culloden 57 14 Imjin River 57 15 Lexington/Concord 48 16 Plassey 45 17 Megiddo 44 18 Gallipoli 40 19 Balaklava 39 20 Salamanca 37 And we get imphal/Kohima as the winner...Why have a public vote at all...Yes it is subjective...but why open it to public if you intend to ignore them and put your own first...
That's pretty interesting. It means the entire poll was therefore meaningless and effectively an ego trip for someone.
I'd have gone for Spion Kop...but we don't like to advertise those sort of endings...Or even Iswandlahna over Rourkes Drift. Classic defeats...
...Or even Iswandlahna over Rourkes Drift. Classic defeats... Yes, but they made great movies though.
It is a very difficult choice. Some may not agree with the voters. All I can say is that it was one hell of a battle. I had written about it 26 years ago. Reproduced here http://bameduniya.blogspot.in/2013/04/ww-ii-battle-kohima-voted-british.html
Its not the battle...my own grandad fought there...Its the voting...It was open to a public vote...it did not win the public vote...the decision was made by others...why have the public vote in that case? All the battles are subjective...I went for Goose Green purely for infantry fighting rather than greatest I suppose where strategy and world influence mattered...But the public vote did not go to Kohima did it...
I agree, there wasn't much bloody point having a public vote. Welcome to the forms btw rbhatto, thanks for the article.