Russian Navy "On Verge of Collapse"

Looks like one of their subs is going to be under repair for a bit longer than planned at the very least:
http://thediplomat.com/2015/04/russian-submarine-catches-fire/

This article also brings to question a number of issues with Russian military procurement:
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/russia-s-stealth-fighter-is-in-serious-trouble-24ac3ef85227

I posted this link over on the other thread before I realized that this was the one where we were discussing media control:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/ukraine-vows-to-save-crimean-tatar-tv-silenced-by-russia-1.2163167

 

KAI: Well I used this: "????" Means what these were questions... because you cannot read maybe you took that as statements ? I have not much against Le Pen btw. She is anti EU and quite clever person, also does not back anti Russian propaganda...she also says, be careful with the US, and she does not back the KIEW nazis: (all points I agree with).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtOvQAn9FqI

 

In English: http://www.euronews.com/2014/12/01/le-pen-i-admire-cool-head-putin-s-resistance-to-west-s-new-cold-war/

Considering what appears to be a €40millon "payoff", I'd doubt she would say anything that would be critical of Putin
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/40m-of-russian-cash-will-allow-marine-le-pens-front-national-to-take-advantage-of-rivals-woes-in-upcoming-regional-and-presidential-elections-9888509.html
Given her trash talking about the US in the previous link, I can only presume that they were reluctant to meet her high price.

Although, I am reminded of a passage often attributed to Winston Churchill

 

MOSCAU is where the nazis reside today. So it's no wonder that Fascist Le Pen is receiving funding from there.

 

Putin is funding the right wing only to create chaos in Europe. But he forgets that the true right wingers know where the Lebensraum is...The Slavs definitely are not in their Aryan list. Just the same mistake as Stalin did making a pact with Hitler.Putin also giving money to Greece. that money never comes back. But it´s out of the Russian money reserves. Greece can never pay back the money they get, and if they use the Russian money to pay the debt to the EU central bank, just thank you Mr Putin!

 

GS: Oh.... Putin funded the EU burocracy/plutocracy & Nato - that´s news to me, if true he´s one evil sucker for sure.......

Kai: Greece is bankrupt for some years, the EU kept zombies alive

 

B-luff: There's some reasoning missing there in your post..

Neither a bureaucracy nor a plutocracy do automatically make a fascist state. .

You continue to redicule that which you do not understand, and deliberately misread.

Putin's Russia provides money for known Fascist organisations such as LePen, in Europe. You have no answer to that.

 

I said, that I don´t think LePen is "facist", see above interview she has not much facist views.... It might be a party more to the right direction granted. I don´t care about left/right as I explained before. I judge their actions and words. Russia can provide money to them (I haven´t heard this tho) as well the US/EU provides money for Kiew....Understand I don´t want a) more money for EU and B) then even give some of this money to the bottomless barrel of Ukriane. Most of EU is bankrupt anyway. But seems they have money for hopeless cases as long it´s against Russia.

If most of you still live in a black/white world, then that´s your thing. Or evil/good or left/right etc. Thats all opium for the masses.

I know enough about the curreng EU. Don´t need more info on them, what we have is enough. Luckily I am sure Putin does not fund it.

 

What evidence do you have of EU bankruptcy?

You're the one constantly labelling things black and white. From the EU, to NATO and further, so you're well-hooked on your opiate.

 

Not entirely B/W the EU was ok let´s say in the 90ties still. Maybe the Nato too as long the Russian bear (WP) was there which posed a real threat probably. Today yes, the EU sucks. Most of nato probably too, ok in this case guitly as charged for B/W


When you don´t know that most EU nations are bankrupt (they only can survive with more debt) then I don´t want to discuss this issue further with you. Sorry. Pls. note if a nation needs to pile more and more debt, then they are bankrupt in my book. Your view can differ, that´cool.

 

But there you are, confusing individual countries with a supranational organisation.

Not surprising that you don't wish to discuss issues when you are doing so from an admitted position of ignorance, but it's sad.

 

Pls. read about the EU - the EU finances are made up of those severall countries of course. Well I don´t understand your point ur trying to make anyway. Guess you are just too clever...also in which EU country do you live ? Or are you another foreigner again who knows it all..........*sigh* Well keep your opinion that´s fine. We have enough people here who would get rid of the current EU in a second if possible. Why do you defend them at all ? Member of the burocracy and profiting from it ?

Also I would like to have some proof that Marine Le Pen is a facist ?

 

So if one or two blocks in a city are bankrupt, the entire municipality is bankrupt? The EU is hardly bankrupt. Individual countries may have issues, and many countries have large debt. But debt is not the equivalent to being bankrupt. As an organisation, the EU is definitely not bankrupt.

Are you yet another mainland European besserwiesser with an attitude problem towards people that disagree with you....*sigh*

Why do you continue to spread mistruths on so many issues, completely disregarding facts? Trying to sell a book?

The reimagining and "mainstreaming" of the far-right parties across Europe, combined with both the heritage and the language used by LePen are enough for me. They have a shallow veneer to appear reasonable and appeal to nationalist sentiments.

 

Perhaps it's should be pointed out just how irony impared you are.

I personally wouldn't refer to her or her party as "Fascist" either. On the other hand you were quick to label the government of the Ukraine as "Fascist" for far less.

 

Bundesluftwaffe, For a nation to be bankrupt they have to be at the point where they are not able to meet the repayments.

Is Japan bankrupt? Their debt lever in over 200% of the GDP and they are still able to meet their repayments.

Not one have yet reached the point they are unable to meet the repayments so not one EU member is actually bankrupt.

 

ireland and Portugal seem to be doing better now, at least they ghave been saying they don´t need more money to help them, if I recall correctly. What about Russia 60-80% of the money invested goes to corruption...Is that better than EU? Just thinking about the Olympic games and the road to the mountains, the money used for that would have been worth enough to pave the road with thin gold plate....

 

Russia denied media reports that it is going to give Greece a loan of up to $5 billion as advance payment for future transit profits from a future gas pipeline. The sum was mooted by the German magazine Spiegel.
Greece is expected to shortly join a joint Russian-Turkish pipeline project that will pump Russian gas to Europe via Turkey. The magazine cited a senior source in the Greek government as saying that the country would get from $3 billion to $5 billion in credit as part of the deal. It was reportedly agreed during Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras’ visit to Moscow last week.
But on Saturday, the Russian president’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov said no such loan is planned.

http://rt.com/business/250837-greece-russia-pipeline-loan/

 

Yes, all true (btw. to GS, you are also partly right). I just use other language and meassurements. For me, someone who can only live on debt is "bankrupt". Be this a country, company or person does not matter much. I distrust central banks and bankster deeply. So it may be that my language might cause some confusion. I appologize. Technically I guess you (and GS to a degree) are right, on my mind not through. Japan is bankrupt, yup. Like Greece, Spain, Portugal, the US etc.

 

Language is meant to communicate. If you go about defining words to mean what you want them to mean rather than use the accepted defiintions and then don't even tell people then you aren't using the language very well. Furthermore you are doing so deliberately. That moves it from ignorance to something far worse.

 

Does this mean BL, that you don´t ever take a loan from bank you only pay cash 100%? Do you tell your friend who take a loan that they are bankrupt?