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GB EU Refferendum June 2016 - Should the GB stay or exit the European Union? BRexit

Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Ben Dover, Mar 16, 2016.

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  1. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Australia just had our elections...Liberals hold power in what should be a majority government. We are watching the northern hemisphere with a face that's says ive just swallowed a lemon...
    We are also expecting a bit of an exodus from both countries to good ole (ole?) Australia...if you think the situation stinks enough to leave we will have you...(so long as you have a trade or experience!) If you're thinking of moving, places like Perth, Darwin, Hobart and Brisbane have space FOR YOU! (Sorry Melbourne and Sydney are full up - of wankers).
     
  2. Tamino

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    PS: Thanks Mutley for your great, sincere post. The value of your contribution to this theme can not be exaggerated. Thank you very much. :)


    What we may observe today is scary. The beast isn't defeated, yet.

    Video shows a young man flashing his British passport at passers-by as a shield against hate after the Brexit.

    [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyAnx7kyLeY[/media]
     
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    safe precautions or wanting the make a buzz? Flashing my passport in front of people who hate me is the last thing I'd do. What if they take it from him?
     
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    Perhaps you're right - the video could be a parody, but it clearly depicts what we may hear these days. The young man in the video appears to be a Britton with non-British ancestry. What can be worse than being rejected by the nation you belong to? Please, read a post of our novice member - Mutley. The post is the first hand information about sad consequence of the Brexit propaganda. Here is essential part, you may go back to read the entire post.

     
  5. Mutley

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    Thanks for the offer CAC. Brisbane would likely be my destination as my distant cousin and her family reside there. Do you think there would be room for a Geologist?

    Even if I could sell my cottage today, the pound doesn't seem to be going very far these days ha ha. It is performing worse than the Argentinian Peso.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-07-08/british-pound-to-become-2016-s-worst-performer
     
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    I once was offered an oil prospection job opportunity in the Australian Outback. When my wife asked whether these was at least a mall, I realized that she'd never be ready for that, so I declined the offer.
     
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    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Room for you...and your pound still buys a pretty penny...
     
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  8. Mutley

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    It's ironic, Andrea Leadson has dropped out of the leadership race to become the new Prime Minister of the UK, so by default Theresa May will now take over from David Cameron probably. Had the leadership race gone ahead, 150,000 conservative party members would have effectively voted in the new prime minister on behalf of the entire British Electorate.

    Democracy in action? So much for people voting Leave and their arguement about the lack of democracy in the EU. It's time our four countries had a general election. The UK did not vote for Theresa May.
     
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    Unsurprised and unconcerned. Time will tell and the public will get their chance. It's not like unelected PMs are a new phenomena in our form of democracy.

    https://fullfact.org/news/unelected-prime-ministers-common-or-not/
    Last time it happened ...
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    What is undemocratic is trying to overturn or ignore the majority preference in a national referendum. Even Yanis Varoufakis that self-confessed confused Marxist/Keynesian critic of the EU (and campaigner for a third option), was saddened to see how so many of the public were infantilised by the divisive approach of both campaigns before the vote ... but he still managed to congratulate the people on rejecting the EU as it now stands.
    I'm saddened to see so many attempting to undermine the democratic process ever since the result was announced - for no other reason than they think they know better than those who voted Leave.


    Had enough people voted Remain we'd still have that other glipe in power, the one who enabled two referenda in two terms and thought the public could to be trusted with big decisions - so long as they went his way. I'm all for a fresh face and so less internal dithering by the main parties now the decision has been made about the EU.

    Interesting times in UK with so many women as party leaders. Left wondering if there'll be one more...
     
  10. Mutley

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    Agreed dbf. Both sides were divisive and I don't recall either side telling the public that an Act of Parliament would be required to trigger Article 50 and that the referendum was only advisory. When Cameron returned from the EU in February we were lead to believe that immigration would more or less stop immediately etc etc. Neither side prepared for an exit vote, it's been highly embarrassing. I didn't like the outcome, but the people have voted and for democracy's sake they have to follow this through or the electorate will just wash their hands of it all.

    The Lords Committee that advised Parliament back in May didn't really address Northern Ireland and the legislation that they hold directly with the EU, yet they covered Scotland. I don't blame you for feeling ignored. I don't know if Northern Ireland's parliament can refuse to pass legislation authorising Brexit. And I don't know how complicated it will be for Northern Ireland to untangle itself from Europe law.

    UKIP and Labour could both end up with female leaders. I don't think Leave voters are going to be too happy about May, with her being from the Remain camp. We will soon find out her plan hopefully now that she will be in 10 Downing Street on Wednesday. I guess Cameron is ready to move into his 15,000 acre estate.
     
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    She just quit the race, so that's unlikely to happen.
    Think it's interesting that the Tories are about to have their second female Pm, while Labour- the party of "equality"- still haven't had their first.
     
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    I hope he gets medical help for his paranoia soon.
    Or more likely he's an attention-seeking wannabe.
    Not surprised we have people stupid enough to take that at face value though.
     
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    And you prove my point by merely repeating what I said as a "comeback".
    Here's an idea; keep your mouth shut, and the rest of us will only think you're an idiot.
     
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    Tamino. I see Brexit as the UK leaving a club that it no longer wishes to be a member of. The majority of us do not harbour any feelings of hate towards the remaining members - we just believe that we - as a nation - could progress outwith the club. There will always will be idiots who take advantage of a political situation to press home racist/ bigoted views. They exist in every walk of life and the only antidote is for people to stand up and oppose these actions. We have had a democratic vote on the issue and I wonder why you have a such chip on your shoulder that you are taking this as a personal insult. Yes, a major change is happening in Europe and political parties are in disarray but surely a measured and sensible approach is needed without histrionics and abuse. The global gutter press will milk the situation with unsubstantiated reports of chaos and doom but rational people will not jump to conclusions regarding the outcome.
     
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    Did I quote you? Was I talking about you? Did I do anything to imply this was in reference to you? I was unaware that you were/are an EU spokesman, the universe revolves around you and/or you are off of your medications.

    It was a general comment. To quote myself "Just curious".
     
  16. Tamino

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    [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GhVsLGOWX0[/media]
     
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    No, I'm not as a matter of fact!
     
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    Why do you think I was talking to you? Please, stay on topic and discuss Brexit, not me. Okay? ;)
     
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    I do really appreciate your opinion, but I don't know where do you see that I am taking theme of this conversation as a personal insult. Basically, what I claim is that prolonging of the departure of the UK is damaging to the remaining 27 countries i.e. almost 500.000.000 people. Therefore the UK should strive to depart swiftly to reduce damages to the other EU member states. To act amicably.

    There are however rude attempts to insult me:

    ... but I really don't give a stuff. ;)
     
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