Bush

I'd still like to know what it would matter if she was a lesbian. I don't care if she's a converted Nepalese monk who used to train monkeys to go pickpocketing in downtown London to finance her addictive collecting of golf balls from courses worldwide, stacked in closets made of human bones and asbestos, in a boat drifting down the Amazon. You see, you have an Austrian bodybuilder as governor of California, so why wouldn't you have a lesbian for President?

 

Geez, I hope I don't come across one of these monkeys when I pop off to London next week.

 

LoL

Didn't mean to scare you. I said 'used to'.

 

Phew, that's ok then. I was about to buy a packet of nuts in order to distract them. Ok, back to the debate on Bush. Sorry to interupt. :smok:

 

Excuse me?! Are you quite sure of this? I'm sorry to say it, Bob, but that sounds completely untrue and somewhat, well, idiotic. And one the Clintons are not, for all their other flaws, is idiotic.

??? What's a pseudo-Maoist? Someone who pretends to be a Maoist? Or someone who sounds like Maoist? Sorry, that does not excatly fit Hillary C! She actually seems quite clever and able. Somewhat of a Socialist, yes, but so what?!

Hm, being a stout Conservative (in the European Continental sense, that is) I find it strange to defend Democrates, but the Clintons really, in my book, don't deserve the treatment they have recieved from my fellow Conservatives. Clinton might have led the most disatrous foreign policy I've ever seen (I'm a bit to young to remember Carter), but he was a man of vison and passion. You might not agree with him, but he tried to do his best (in s
opite of fierce resistance in Congress)!

You're right about that, but howcome? It seems to me that it's personal, not based on her politics. To be quite frank I find that distastefull!

Best regards!


- Bluenote.

 

I think, certainly in Britain and the US at any rate, politics is personal, it's as much about voting for the leader you like as the policies you agree with (and on this basis we got Blair...).

 

Yeah but c'mon! William Hague as the alternative back then??!! :lol:

 

Sadly, we too have what is effectively a 2-party system.

Blair & Labour may not be universally liked, but the Conservatives really do not seem to offer a great deal.

The closest thing we have to a 3rd Party is the Liberal Democrats, but they do not have enough support to be in with a realistic chance.

And I deplore the way British politics (and any politics at all) is becoming more about the person than the policies. Why does being photogenic and having a 'personality' make you fitter for office than an anonymous gray figure who has a clear set of policies and is efficient at running a country?
:roll:
My mini-rant over!

 

But a splendid mini-rant it was!

Indeed, Great Britain also has the district system which effectively imposes a two-party system, because a local majority is much easier to get than a national one. This makes it possible for a few (two or three) parties to actually run the show and render all others chanceless.

In Holland we get more and more of this face-voting as well. Even though our present PM is a total joke with neither the face nor the vision, over the past few years more votes went to populists and good-looking poltical leaders than to others. Just like Ricky I mistrust this development, because it will lead to leaders who have more charisma than brain, or to leaders who have dangerous charisma to mask their evil plans (i.e. Hitler).

A very bashable statement I know.

 

Who was the last powerful austrian.

Sorry.

Well said Roel.

A persons sexuality is a measure of the person, however, how they handle what others think and say about them is.

 

Did you know that Arnie keeps busts of Stalin and other dictators in his mansion, as sources of inspiration?

Merci.

 

graag gedan

 

In Finland we are ahead of others in this one too. Many suspect that our president Tarja Halonen IS at least a bisexual. When she was young she was the chairwoman of SETA (sexual equality) Their members usually are lesbians and gays..... :roll:

 

I always thought, the further north, the more conservative... Wrong again! We haven't ever even had a female Prime Minister.

 

We've had a female Prime Minister -

but she was rather conservative...

 

So has Canada, Kim Cambell, however she inherited it from the traitorous Prime Minister Brian Mulroney.
I think her seat of power was a bout 6 months.

 

As much as I hate to say it, it is easier to sell a pretty face to voters then to sell a policy to the masses. Politicians arent stupid, so that is what they sell to people.

 

So do you think this is a pretty face? I think Halonen managed to sell her pacifistic, human rights emphasizing policy to majority of Finns. She is our president, but not mine! :angry:

 

Phew, at least one country doesn't just look at the faces of the politicians when voting... It's a relief, now remove that picture!

 

About Bush: has anyone heard about the following story?

LAST FRIDAY (December 12), Margie Schoedinger, 38, was pronounced dead as a result of a 'gunshot wound to the head'. The death was officially registered as 'suicide' by the Harris County Examiner's Office.

As reported exclusively by New Nation in July, Schoedinger of Sugar Land, Texas, had filed a lawsuit against President Bush (a former Governor of Texas) in December 2002 accusing him of a series of 'individual sex crimes' against her and her husband.

In the amazing seven- page document, filed at Fort Bend County Court in Texas, Schoedinger claimed that Bush had abducted, drugged, raped and beat her.

She also suggested that she 'dated George W Bush as a minor', and the President may have been the father of a child she miscarried following the alleged rape.

Appear

Schoedinger said she had filed the lawsuit on December 3, 2002 and although court documents filed on the following day mention Bush and offer him 20 days to respond or appear in Fort Bend, it is still unclear whether the President was ever served with the suit.

Schoedinger was attempting to claim US$1 million in actual damages, plus US$49 million for punitive damages including emotional distress and loss of freedom.

Speaking earlier this year to American journalist Jackson Thoreau, Schoedinger said that the President had personally contacted her to say that he wanted her dead, but could trust no one to carry out the crime.

Of course, there is no indication that the president had anything whatsoever to do with her death.

Of the lawsuit she said: 'I am still trying to prosecute, but as yet, I haven't had a court date set.

'I want to get this matter settled and go on with my life. People have to be accountable for what they do and that is why I am pursuing this lawsuit.'

The US media had largely ignored the filing of the lawsuit and the story had only appeared in a local newspaper.


It seems that Bush isn't such a holy man as many americans think!