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Which was the most famous tanks of WWII?

Discussion in 'The Tanks of World War 2' started by warpi, Jun 8, 2004.

  1. Ricky

    Ricky Well-Known Member

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    That's what I thought - why?

    Was it simply a case of 'what we have works well enough'?
     
  2. warpi

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    Now the list is finally completed. If you have any better ideas for a specific tank or anything is wrong, please post that.

    It would be nice if anyone know the famous AntiAir tanks for USSR and USA.


    United Kingdom
    Cromwell (medium_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Sherman (medium_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Crusader (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Covenanter (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Vickers 6 (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Churchill (infantery_tank - Attacks: inf)
    Valentine (infantery_tank - Attacks: inf)
    Comet I (heavy_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Challenger (heavy_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Crusader (antiair_tank - Attacks: air, inf)

    Japan
    Chi-Ha (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Te-Ke (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Chi-Ha, Shinhoto (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Chi-Nu (medium_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Chi-Ri (medium_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Type 87 (infantery_tank - Attacks: inf)
    Sumida (infantery_tank - Attacks: inf)
    Chi-Ha AA (antiair_tank - Attacks: air, inf)

    USSR
    T-44 (heavy_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    IS-3 (heavy_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    BA-21 (infantery_tank - Attacks: inf)
    BA-64 (infantery_tank - Attacks: inf)
    SU-100 (light_tank - Attacks: tank)
    T-60 (light _tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    BT-7M (light _tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    T-34/85 (medium_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    KV-1s (medium_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)

    USA
    Stuart (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Chaffee (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    T5 (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Sherman (medium_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    M6 (medium_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    T32 (heavy_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    T28 (heavy_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    M38 (infantery_tank - Attacks: inf)
    Staghound (infantery_tank - Attacks: inf)

    Germany
    Ostwind (antiair_tank - Attacks: air, inf)
    Wirbelwind (antiair_tank - Attacks: air, inf)
    Kfz 13 (infantery_tank - Attacks: )
    SdKfz 234 (infantery_tank - Attacks: )
    Marder III (medium_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Panzerbefehlwagen IV (medium_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Panther (heavy_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Tiger (heavy_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    Jagdtiger (heavy_tank - Attacks: tank)
    Wespe (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    PzKw I (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
    PzKw II (light_tank - Attacks: tank, inf)
     
  3. Lyndon

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    I would scrub the IS-3 and T-44 from the Soviet group as those two tanks had no combat in WW2 (debatable about the IS-3 but very doubtful). Replace them with the IS-2 and ISU-122 OR ISU-152.

    I would also include the Panzer IV amongst the German group. The Panzer IV was the workhorse of the German armoured divisions. The Panzer III should also be included. That was the backbone during the first half of the war.

    Just some suggestions! :D
     
  4. Danyel Phelps

    Danyel Phelps Active Member

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    Add the M4A1 76(w) or the M4A3E8 for America.
     
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    And they were much more common to be seen (more famous) than tanks like the Jagdtiger of which only very few were made, and things like the Marder III which originally wasn't even a complete german tank! (the marder series were originally designed to carry captured Russian 76.2 mm guns. The germans captured so many and so many ammunition it was worth designing a hull for.)
     
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    Panther!!
     
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    The Tiger
    The King Tiger
    The Panther
    The Panzer IV

    The Cromwell
    The Sherman
    The T-34
     
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    i very much agree with u about the statement on the panther and good luck with the game warpi -(-(-(-(o(O)o)-)-)-)-
     
  9. Roel

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    The US army as far as I know had no AA tanks, but there was a series of anti-air equipped halftracks based on the M3 White halftrack. You could use the M16 (quad .50) as an "AA tank".

    The Russians used a converted recon tank for AA purposes, the SU-37. It was very similar to the German Möbelwagen, a PanzerIV with 37mm AA gun fitted on top.

    The Challenger was a tank destroyer and wasn't supposed to attack infantry; it was there to support other tanks that were better suited to attack infantry than they were to attack other tanks. I would render it useful for attacking tanks only, and it wasn't very effective either.

    As Lyndon wrote, the upper two are best swapped for other tanks. Use his proposals instead. The KV1 was a heavy tank and its relatively small gun made it more suited to fight infantry than tanks. Only the later KV-85 was an actual multi-purpose heavy tank.

    The Marder III was a tank destroyer, and its thin armour made it a bad choice for any close-range work; not an infantry fighter at all. You might want to use the StuGIII in its stead, a true assualt tank for all purposes. The Panzerbefehlswagen IV was just a conversion of the regular PanzerIV, which was as others mentioned the most common of German tanks. Use this to make your game more realistic. The Wespe is a mobile artillery piece and can't be used in direct combat; therefore it shouldn't be able to engage tanks. The Pz I had only two machine guns as armament; it couldn't attack tanks with that.

    I like your game already! Will you keep us informed? Thanks!
     
  10. Ricky

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    The Americans did experiment a lot with AA tanks, but eventualy settled on the M16
     
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    For USA it would have to be the halftrack with quad .50

    The soviets did not have any official AA converted tank chassis
    A cool unique weapon for the soviets would be the katayusha Rocket launcher
    Also I would add the SU-85 SPG for the soviets and take out the ISIII (or JSIII)

    Germany STuGIII for anti infantry/tank would be cool too
    Jagdpanther or Hetzer for antitank

    Good luck with the game
     
  12. liang

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    The most famous battleship (or any warships) in WWII was the Bismarck. The most famous tank was no doubt the Tiger 1. The most famous aircraft was the.... well it is probably a toss up between the B-17/Mustang/Spitfire/Stuka..... okay maybe it is not that clear afterall.
     
  13. Lyndon

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    In Britain at least the Spitfire is easily the most famous aircraft of WW2.
     
  14. Canadian_Super_Patriot

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    Germnay would have the panther , U.S.A would have the Sherman , The italians would have the M.13 , the brits would have the valentine or , cromwell , firefly , or churchill
     
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    Ahh, the Panther was not the most common German tank. Both the Panzer IV and the StuGIII were more numerous.
     
  16. tom!

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    Well, this part of your list is not very complete (and wrong in some aspects).
    The japanese nomenclature only knowed light (up to 10 t) and medium tanks (10 to 20 t). Additionally there were tankettes, armoured cars and armoured tracked vehicles.

    The main problem is here: What do you mean with "famous"?
    Japanese tanks weren´t well known by the allies and most of them weren´t worth knowing.

    US and britisch forces mainly faced medium type 89 Otsu (your `type 87`), light type 95 Ha-Go, medium type 97 Chi-Ha, medium type 97 Shinhoto Chi-Ha, type 94 tk tankettes and type 97 Te-Ke tankettes:

    type 89: 57 mm gun, 1 MG
    The gun had good CS-abilities but very low AT-abilities

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    type 94 tk: 1 MG

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    type 95 Ha-Go: 37 mm gun, 2 MG
    low AT-abilities

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    type 97 Te-Ke: 37 mm gun or 1 MG
    low AT-abilities but better than Ha-Go

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    type 97 Chi-Ha: 57 mm gun, 2 MG
    good CS-abilities, low AT-abilities

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    type 97 Shinhoto Chi-Ha: 47 mm gun, 3 MG
    high AT-abilities

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    The medium type 1 Chi-He was mainly used on the Philippines 1944 and in Burma. He looked like the Shinhoto but had better armour.

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    The medium type 3 Chi-Nu was only built up on the japanese main islands and was not known by the frontline troops.

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    In 1943 Japan introduced the new prefix "heavy" for tanks with a weight of more than 20 t. The heavy type 4 Chi-To was ready for production at wars end. The heavy type 5 Chi-Ri was in early prototype stage with limited armour and no main gun.

    The "Sumida" was an armoured car and an AA-tank never went into production.


    If you add tank hunters and artillery tanks you also have to mention the type 1 Ho-Ni I, the type 1 Ho-Ni II and the type 3 Ho-Ni III:

    The Ho-Ni I had a 75 mm artillery gun with very good AT-abilities.

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    The Ho-Ni II had a good 105 mm artillery gun.

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    The Ho-Ni III was a tank hunter with closed fighting compartment and was similar to the StuG III. Like the Chi-Nu it was only built up on the main islands.

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    Yours

    tom! ;)
     
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    I'd like to add Elefant/Ferdinand to Germans. It was very well known by Soviet troops compared to its quantity and Soviets feared it a lot.
     
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    You guys added alot, but I might give the Soviets the SU-76 because it was very numerous and used alot. It was also widly used by N. korea in the Korean war.

    Make sure to give the web adress for you game. i really think it sounds cool.
     
  19. AchtungPanzers

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    Ok ao i like thees games so put your link to:)

    The most famus and feard tank in the entire WW2 was the german tiger 1.
    when it came out it was far superior to anything!

    and the list of costs and all that...

    Tiger was very Expensive good armour good gun life thing depends on its oponent but usally very good.

    Panther most like the tiger but slightly cheeper


    Light tank Chi Thing... very cheep tank very poor amrour poor gun evry thing was poor...

    Churchil: Heavly armourd but a poor 75mm gun. very expensive and very poor attack capabilitys...

    Chromwell: Medium armour same poor 75mm gun medium cost(is think) works at most german tanks in close quarters.

    Sherman: very cost efective.. actualy 90 mm sloping armour :eek: same poor 75mm gun :angry: only won in numbers... never in efficensie.

    valentine: only heard about it once in a tank program at discovery channal... sounded like a normal sherman to me :-? .


    T 34: verrrrryyyyy cost efective. in 1941 it had a very good armour (germans used max 50 mm pz III at that time thoug...) 76 mm gun (upgraded to 85 ) which means u'll need two versions (T34/76 and T34/85)
    in the early war almost invincible to pzI->III but later on... obsolute... like the sherman its numbers was its strenght:)

    US Sherman: almost the same as the UK ones...
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    good luck :)
     
  20. Roel

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    Hey AchtungPanzers, welcome to the forum. I have one remark on your post.

    If the T34 is incorporated into the game in two versions, the early (76.2mm) and late (85mm) versions, then surely the Sherman would have to appear in two versions as well: the early (75mm) version and the late (76mm) version. The latter being more powerfully armed, more armoured and better equipped to withstand direct hits through an innovative ammo storage system. In this way the Sherman becomes much more than just a numbers grinder! :D
     

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