whats yours????

im wery sorry danyel ididn't mean to be rude either

 

I can't make a decision between the T-34/85 or the JaghPanther.

The T-34/85 just looks like it means to bring you pain in the worst way.

The JaghPanther just looks efficiently cruel.

Both are marvels of engineering in their own way, diametrically opposed to each other.

I have to say that the K Tiger was about the most worthless tank of the war. Like Brittany Spears at a spelling bee, just not capable of the task at hand.

 

What task would that be? Defending Germany? It was an EXCELLENT defensive weapon and the number of destroyed Soviet tanks testify to that. Germany didn't need a lightening quick offensive tank in 1944/45. The King Tiger was responsible for blunting many Soviet attacks in a way that the PZ IV would never have been able to.

 

My favorite tank would be the "King Tiger" because it had the most powerfull Gun ever mounted on a Tank during ww2, and a good time after ww2.......... :bang:
It made the Pershing and JSII's guns look silly :smok: :lol:

 

I say thee nay.

 

I am going to do some research on that Lyndon. I don't see how a big lump of steel that can't cross the bridge it is defending is of any use as anything other than a target for artillery and the pilot of a plane with a 500lb bomb.

Go ahead and sit by that bridge or on that hill, hey fine with me :lol: :lol: I will put a squad of infantry there to watch you or get a few big guns to drop some 152mm rounds on your head. Better yet how about a few Pe-2s to make you burn your gas. How about just sitting there stuck in the mud dominating the area that you can see?

I'll build another bridge somewhere for my tanks and just go around you.

Yeah a really good gun that can hurt but in the end it's about as useless as can be because of the platform it's on. A nice underpowered, heavy and mechanically challenged target. :kill:

 

I dont understand........ Im not from england so.......

But anyway you cant deny that the 88mm L/71 kwk43 gun was the most lethal gun to be mounted on a tank........

Like to see any other gun penetrate 130mm of 30 degree sloped armor at 2500m with a APCBC round...........(because no other gun could)...... :smok:

The collosal kenetic energy created by the KwK43 gun was unmatched..... :kill:

 

"I say thee nay" basically means No. Danyel is probably referring to your remark that the King Tiger's gun made that on the Pershing look silly.

The King Tiger had heavy armour and a heavy gun. This made it perfect for defence, simply because it would destroy you from ranges where you would have a hard time even spotting it. Then you'd have to come so close as to ask for certain death before being able to despatch it. So for Germany at that time the tank was as useful as it could get. However for any other nation in any other situation it was quite useless indeed.

 

The Tiger II, after all the mechanical problems were eliminated.

 

What are you talking about ??

 

My favorite tank, the King Tiger!

The first ones to be fielded suffered from por welded joints and tranmission over heating.

 

That might be, but later ones have many times survived a blow from the 122mm gun on the JSII even at the clossest ranges........
When the JSII had a chance of getting in close enough to hit the "K-Tiger" the K-Tiger many times survived it........ but the JSII's didnt.........

The TigerII could take out JSII's with a frontal hit at over 2500m...

 

Well, like I said, when the problems were fixed this tank became the lord of the battlefield. If a JS II got too close it was a sign of numerical superiority or the fact that the German tank gunners ran out of AP rounds.

Cheers!

 

Yes thats true..........

Like the time where 3 K-Tiger's engaged some JSII's at over 2000m head on, after only about two minuts all of the JSII's were knocked out, each from one shot wich penetrated thier frontal plate.... :bang:

 

Actualy I was refering to his claim that the 8.8cm KwK L/71 or whatever it is the KT had was the most powerful gun ever mounted on a tank in WW2. It wasn't.

 

Oh wich was that then......???????

Because it was a heck of alot better than the gun both on the Pershing and JSII........

 

Ever hear of the Jagdtiger, with its 128 mm PaK 44 L/55?

 

Not a tank........ its an Tank destroyer......plus not even that could pen as much armor with AP rounds as the 88mm L/71 gun....... :bang:

 

1. Tank Destroyers have been mentioned in this thread. It isn't untill I try to contradict the God-like powers of an almighty Tiger that I am told that Tank Destroyers are not allowed in the thread. Go figure.

2. Using Pzgr-39 rounds, which are the German standard, the 12.8cm PaK 44 L/55 has about 60-40mm penetration over the 8.8cm KwK 43 L/71.

Also, for future referance, if you're going to say things like "Oh, he is terribly wrong" you could at least have the common courtesy to, at the very least, mention my name instead of ignoring me. And incase you didn't know, my name is Danyel, not "he."