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Can anyone help me with these Shermans?

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  1. 0wl

    0wl New Member

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    First of all nice to be here, so hello to you all!

    My question is as follows: can anyone help me identify the following Shermans, i need there exact classification names (like the M4A3 or whatever)!

    Number 1,2,3.

    Thanx!
     
  2. 0wl

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    Sorry for this second post but i had already reached the maximum of attachments!

    Number 4.
     
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    Danyel Phelps Active Member

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    From top to bottom: M4A3 76(w), M4A3E8 76(w) HVSS (Easy Eight for short), M4A3E8 76(w) HVSS. In the last picture, you have a normal M4A3 on top and an M4 on the bottom.
     
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    I thought the top one ( in the last picture ) was an M4, and the bottom one an M4A2. How can you tell ?
     
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    Many thanx Danyel Phelps! 8)
     
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    Danyel Phelps Active Member

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    I could tell primarly by the slope. The M4 and M4A1 had a greater slope while the A2, A3, and A4 had a lesser slope.
     
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    Welcome to the forum 0wl!

    The top picture in the second post really is an M4, a regular one. The M4A3 indeed has lesser slope, as can be seen on the front of the M4A3E8s which are basically adaptions of the M4A3. This slope is much less than that of the picture in question. The rule I always stick to is, if viewed from the side the driver's hatch projects forward it is no M4A3. In this version the hatch is integrated in the frontal armour entirely.

    In the picture the driver's hatch projects outward, so the tank is an M4.
     
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    No, the bottom one is.

    And, actualy, the top Sherman in the second post is an M4A4.
     
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    Yes, I still can't recognize that one. I was just pointing out that it wasn't a M4A3, for certain.
     
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    Thanx for the info guys!
     
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    the top tank in the second post is definitely just an m4
     
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    So it seems, but the only difference between it and the M4A4 is a lengthened hull to fit a different engine. I can't really tell from this picture.
     
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    dont forget the m4a4 had its armour slped more
     
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    Ome_Joop New Member

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    Problem is with these drawings is.....that they are drawings...

    They don't even seem to be the same scale (look at the turret)!
     
  15. shermanologist on watch

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    photo 4 M4 top (see distinct armo(u)red cover over the air intake to the ventilator (the Continental engine was a air cooled radial) and M4A4 lower (see http://www.chars-francais.net/archives/ ... _2cuir.htm ) because of armoured cover over the radiator water filler. And of course longer body (only M4A6 had such a long body, but 75 made not deployed outside USA).
    HTH
     
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    No more than the M4.

    Thanks for that post, Shermanologist - shows you have that name for a reason ;)
     
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    You are wellcome. :D
    Information not passed on is lost!
     

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