Captured Armour

Not exactly captured armour but at the begining of Barbarossa a large percentage of trucks used were actually captured during earlier operations in France and such.

 

Here is what looks like an American in a Tiger.
I found this pic on the internet.

 

thats my current desktop picture at work

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What is this strange thing you speak of?

It's a good picture, does anyone know the story behind Tiger 012?

 

Hello! I'm a newbee here and i need some help. I've got a Revell StugIII Stug40 Ausf G and once I found a photo about a captured one in Us service. But I lost the photo (it was in a modell-magazine)...
I remember so the photo was taken in France...the remains of the houses were tip. french. So the date is 44, cause there were no snow on the pic.
Could anyone help me plx?

PS: sorry for my english

PS2: Thats sure it was stugIII. One thing yet...a zimmerit shield was in the stug sides w/ big white stars of course.

 

Hey Tomgrey, welcome to the forum.

Your question has me wondering whether you really saw a StuGIII in American service or rather a StuGIII of Skorzeny's Panzer Brigade 150, which was used during the Ardennes Offensive. Its vehicles were mocked up to look like they were Allied, most impotantly by painting big white stars on the sides. I have a few pictures of one of these StuGs here, I can scan them for you if you like.

Your English is fine by the way.

 

Hmmm...Skorzeny. Sounds good. Please scanthe photos if it is not a big request.

 

So with this infos i made some searching. Found some pics about Ottos stugs, but these are not just painting to usm but "masking" too. (Mean forex lower side skirts).
But on the photo which I had it was a real german stug, w/out skirting and mention the zimmerit armor!. Us dont use zimmerit, as far i know it.
And it was a summer or any season w/out snow, but the Ardennes raids were happen in wintertime.

Or just my memory playing w/ me.

My modell is on halfway (the hull is ready) yet (I just started again the modelling after few years break), so i havent got too much problems w/ it, but i like to know it is a "real" american or a fake?

 

I would also like to see the photo if anyone has it.

A few points to consider. No Allied forces would have employed enemy equipment for a long enough period of time to warrant painting stars on it. If enemy equipment was used, it would have been for a few days at the most. What you most like saw was a vehicle that was captured and taken to a rear area for intelligence evaluations. In this case, the Allied stars would be painted on them.

 

Ah - not always. Check out 'Cuckoo' on page one of this topic.

 

Here are the pictures that I have of Skorzeny's StuG III, along with some mocked-up Panthers. They're taken from "Fire" by Gérard Grégroire.



Hope this helps!

 

Roel:
I recall a battle for a village in France/Belgium--wintertime I believe-- where the Germans/SS disguised their Panthers to mimic the profile of M-10 tank-destroyers... including the addition of a fake-"duck-bill" on their turret-rears.
I think they were engaged by M-10 armored cars if memory serves. A hopelessly lopsided battle for M-10s, but they nipped at their heels like little terriers.

Tim

 

Thanks I found this pics. Don't help. My stug is parked in a city (ruins) as I mentioned. But thanx for the help, maybe w/ these infos I will find something.

 

A photo about mine:



So you can compare w/ Skorzenys stugs.

 

Hey, sweet-looking model! You should post in the WWII Hobbies area...

 

Thanx! I will.

 

Found It!!!!

So, this Stug3 Ausf G (Stug40) was captured by the 104th Infantry Div. in France...

Pic.:




Mention the left side mans weapon...stg44...ccc armor, weapons what else?

The photo was originally in the Sinal Squadrons "Stug in action" book. I scanned from a hungarian modelling magazine.
Have anyone got scanned 'zines or "detailbooks"? I've got some about Panther, Hummel, Maultier, Pz-1, Nebelwerfer...if anyone need I can send it.

 

That was at the beginning of the battle of the Bulge. They weren't disguised as M10's but as Shermans IIRC (can't remember the book i readed in). Anyway, the german crews admitted that it looked like a sherman, from very far away.

 

I dont know if i would want to be in a captured tank because you have the threat of being shot at by your own team...did this ever happed?

 

all the time, the flyboys just shot up everything they could find

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