Question about the Lecleric MBT

I have heard of it, but I don't know much about it.

Does anyone have any official information on this tank?

How does it compare to the Leapord 2, Abrams, and T 90?

 

I'm in a hurry now but I have heard it is a very sophisticated tank design.

A REMF can download data from the tank such as how much fuel ammo ect each tank has.

This makes me nervous. The French seem to be control freaks and in war that kind of micromanagement is not good.

The tank I'm sure is comparable to the best. The question is would some worthless REMF make it ineffective.

 

Here is the basics.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/leclerc/

 

According to some tankers, the Leclerc contains the most sophisticated electronics ever in a tank!!

 

Most complicated doesn't mean it's most effective, does it? It's confusing because every country claims it has the best electronic warfare or fire-control systems in its tanks.

 

According to many Tank reviews, the best electronis are mounted first in the Leclerc, then the abrams, and then in the merkava.

 

So does that mean the ones on the Merkava and Abrams are better since they are newer than the Leclerc?

 

The Leclerc is more recent than the Merkava or Abrams.

According to most sources, Leclerc could well be the best MBT at the moment.
But generally the MBT's of western nations are all quite close, and as the countries having those tanks will not go to war against each other in any forseeable future, it's not such an important question.

 

Have u seen the Leclerc in parade in the Jour de Bastille?

 

I saw them there in 2000.
It's rather impressive.

 

Well of course they do!!

 

Very sleek and modern compared to the AMX beast.

 

The French always made them look pretty, but can they fight? When was the last time the French win a war? The air-borne invasion of the Suez Canal? No wait, that was a joint-operation with the Brits. Or was it at Vietnam?

 

Last war France has won is Gulf war 1991.

 

Well for all I know the French lost bigtime at Dien Bien Phu and never returned in 'Nam after that.

 

Don't start accusing other countries for lost wars of the past. The actions of national armies in previous fights say little about their performance today, if required.

 

The US lost nam but they came back kicking in 91.

And now they seem to be doing a lousy job in Iraq. It depends when where how why what who .......

 

If you discount wars when multiple countries were involved on one side what was the last war Britain or even the United States won?

Gulf War?

Nope

Bosnia?

Again there was a coalition

Gulf War One?

No again

Vietnam?

The US didn't even win at all

World War Two?

Key word being "Allies" and "Axis"

World War One?

Key words there are "Allies" and "Central Powers"

So you see you can make any country look like it didn't win a war during the 20th century by not counting wars were they were part of a coalition as victories.

Anyway by not knowing Arabic you are unwittingly praising the french army because they stopped the muslim advance through Europe at Tours.

 

Wasn't that Charlemagne?
As his Empire contained Germany, France, Benelux, Northern Italy, and other bits & bobs, one can hardly call it a 'French' victory. France did not exist then.
(Pedantic Man is back!!!! )

However, if we're gonna ask about the last time nations won a war all on their own...
Britain's last was probably the Zulu War or the Boer war
"Germany's" last was the Franco-Prussian war
France's last... 100 Years war, possibly, although they were not unsupported (Blind King John of Bohemia?) . Maybe their wars of Colonial conquest.
This could last a while...

 

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Altough I think such a question is not worth being posted on a serious military forum like this one, I will try to answer it.
In order to stay short, I will not remind you on french military history before the 20 th century(100 years war, wars of Italy, the wars of 17 and 18 th century, revolutionary war, napoléonic wars, crimean war....)
For sure not any other european country's army performed bether than french army during these centuries.(One historian once quoted"The two forces you always can rely upon is the french army and the english navy").

French wars in the 20th century:

WW1:
From all the western allies, France fielded by far the most troops and suffered the most casualties.
In 4 years figthing France lost 1,4 million soldiers(and I'm not counting the hundreds of thousands of mutilated).
Do not forget the battles of the Marne, Champagne, Chemin des Dames, Artois, Verdun....)
At Verdun, which was one of the worst figthings in history, french army had lost 360.000 man, Germany 340.000)
At some days of this battle french army lost as many soldiers as the US in the whole WW1.(At the end of WW1, US casualties were 17.000).
Few armies in history actually ever faced such fierce figthing, or such high casualties.

WW2:
France was beaten in may-june 1940.
That was at the time the fate of every army facing the Wehrmacht.
But many frenchmen continued the fight among the free french or in the Résistance.
French army fought at Bir Hakeim, in Tunisia, Italy, french troops liberated Paris and southern France(Operation Dragoon).
French troops fought hard during the winter 44-45 in the Vosges mountains(this battle is often compared to the one in the Huertgenwald).
In 1945 french army conquered southern Germany(Baden Wuertenberg + great parts of Bavaria).
In WW2 France lost 254.000 soldiers in combat.In comparison, the US lost 292.000.If you consider that at least one third of these died in the pacific war, one can actually say that France lost more soldiers in the figthing against Germany than the US.

Indochina:
France lost the war against the communist guerilla.
The US also lost against the same ennemy(altough, unlike the french they had substantial air+helicopter support)

Algeria:
According to military experts, french army won the war against the algerian guerilla.(Altough France later lost the peace).
Today France's campaign in Algeria is viewed by most experts as the way how to defeat an ennemy using guerilla tactic.

Peace keeping missions in Africa:
French army is heavily involved in peace keeping in Africa.
For example Operation Manta in 1983 chasing Ghadafis troops out of Tchad.

Gulf war 1991:
France was part of the victorious alliance.
First it's air force helped destroy iraqi infrastructure, later french ground troops(mainly 6th armoured division"Daguet") took part in the offensive.

Balkans 1995-1999:
France was part of the western forces during these wars.

Does that answer your question Liang?