Mordern day vs ww2

Well first off I will assume that the corvett is not carrying nuclear tipped missiles.

lets not forget that even some tiny corvettes are able to carry some 6 harpoon missiles. I cannot recall the exact performances of the harpoon but theyre extremely deadly upon impact. Sort of like the tomahawk missiles. Not only are they smart guidance and can be guided by remote control, but they can saturate a battleship pretty badly.

 

Apparently we have a lot of Michael Crichton fans here who believe in the concept of time travel. This definitly can conjure up many intriguing scenarios.

While the dual between a Mach-2 French Mirage and a 400mph ME-109 is a mismatch, I would love to see a slower A-10 Thunderbolt taking on the P-47 milkjug, heck even a dual between an Apache and a spitfire would be entertaining.

Although the range of anti-surface missiles give modern ships the edge, I would love to see a squadron of WWII battleships each with 9 16-inch guns pounding away at some Spruance and Arlie Burghe cruisers and destroyers, armed only with one single forward 6-inch gun.

And what about a Panther taking on a Scorpion, both armed with the 75mm gun, or a Puma taking on the Bradley AFV?

Or Rommel serving under Saddam taking on the UN coalition forces.... okay I am getting way ahead of myself

 

how would a standard us army division fair against the elite SS division? i meant infantry battle...armed only with standard rifles and other hand held weapons like RPG with no artillery support or tank or air cover for both sides

 

Well, seeing as the standard infantry weapon of today is an assault rifle where the SS would be using their Mausers, and seeing how today's infantry is professional and therefore highly trained, I think the SS would be wiped out. By the way, artillery and AT support is organic to a division so they would be able to use that in any standard engagement.

 

An M2A2 Bradly would likely decimate almost any German armored opposition.

 

Any Hummer mounting an anti-tank TOW missile launcher can take out a tiger tank. On the other hand, a Panther or Tiger will have no trouble penetrating the Bradley either.

 

Thats assuming that the Bradly is made of steel, which it isn't.

 

just kept tyhink how well today generals can fair aginast ww2 era generals in terms of tactical skilll like Rommel and patton...

 

I have no clue as to what type of armor the Bradley has, perhaps you can enlighten us.

 

Isn't it made of aluminium?

 

Plus Bradleys often carry AT missiles of their own.

Yes, in ambush circumstances, WW2 era troops & weapons could give a modern force a nasty time, but come on!
Maybe on a squad level MP-44s & MG42s would do ok against M-16s and M60s, but an armoured engagement between Panthers and M1A1s?

Then you get the more representative side of things -
Mauser rifles vs M-16s.
Pz.IV vs M1A1.

 

I think modern ships are going to struggle a bit against a last generation battleship. Modern ships are basically floating computers that work on the basis of being able to see further and react quicker than the other guy. Battleships on the other hand were built on the basis that they would have to absorb massive blows.

Modern ships do carry very powerful anti ship but they don't carry very many. I don't believe that a single modern ship could sink a last generation battleship, but and equal tonnage of modern ships to battleships (meaning several modern ships to each battleship) could do the job.


On the subject of modern tanks, any modern (or half way modern) tanks is going to kick the snot out any WW2 vehicle in any situation end of story.

Versus the Bradley, in an open field engagement the Bradley will kill WW2 heavy tanks for as long as the TOW's hold out. The gun should take care of the lighter stuff. True the Bradley isn't that well armoured but it's ability to fire accurately should more than make up.

The place where I could see WW2 vehicles standing the best chance against Bradley or any of its counterparts would be fighting in a built up area where they would loose their range advantage.

 

Its worthy to note here that the Bradly's chain gun can penetrate modern tank armor.

 

Which tank?
the Chobnam on the M1A1 & Challenger 2?
Because that is rather impressive if so.

 

I have videos of it penetrating the hell out of T-72 tanks. I highly doubt a Panther would offer much resistance.

 

You forget something essential here, even a tiny corvett can carry 6 styx missiles and this corvett will be able to see and engage the battle ship WITHOUT THE BATTLESHIP EVER KNOWING IT WAS THERE.

As for a modern cruiser, its tomahawks would blow up the battleship while the battleship is still in port.

Offcourse if u start the battle while both the battleship and modern ship are next to each other then its another story.

Otherwise the battleship is a forgone conclusion.

 

Bradlley's chain gun taking out a T-72, vow, was it a frontal hit?

How about some more evenly matched contest, who has the edge?

1. Apache versus the British Newport in a dogfight

2. A-10 Thunderbolt up against the...well, P-47 Thunderbolt

3. The Paris gun versus any modern artillery

4. The Sherman firefly against the Scorpion with the 75mm gun

.......

 

what about M60 vs centurion tank? :lol:

 

This is a little off subject. Comparing the standard equiptment in general, the weapons, such as the m-60 and the m-16 would crush the standard bolt action rifle. The sniper rifle would also work in the modern era's favor since it can reach further and has a larger rate of fire. With clothing we have to rembember that back then clothing technology was based on cotton, so in the winter modern day clothing would be a big help. Also modern camo is more efective. Now with choppers an appache can see a target from miles away so even without artillery support with a couple choppers could decimate a entire tank colum.

 

Regarding smallarms:

The Mg42 will beat the living crap out of the M60 any day, period !.

The Stg44 has allmost exactly the performance of the AK47 and would be a very dangerous oppisition for the M16. ("The 7.92x33mm round is more powerfull than the 5.56mm Nato".)
However the M16 is more accurate and just as capable of killing, making it slightly superior.


I will have to say that if a modern U.S. infantry platoon faced a WW2 German infantry platoon (considdering both consisted of the weapons listed above) would be pretty equal. (Normally however the German platoon would have K98k's instead of Stg44's, but today we make an exeption

The M16 might prove to be very effective at medium ranges because of its good accuracy. However the Mg42 would really wreck some havoc when it starts to open up !

Info: With special 7.92x57 MG ammunition the Mg42 would get a ROF of around 1800rpm !! (A couple of those and you've got yourself a WHOLE LOT OF FIREPOWER !!.)

I'd say mount a couple of Mg42 on tripods, and then you can start firing at your enemy at 3500m... "No sniper danger !!"

KBO