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Russian Tanks VS German tanks

Discussion in 'The Tanks of World War 2' started by Canadian_Super_Patriot, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. Canadian_Super_Patriot

    Canadian_Super_Patriot recruit

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    which country produced the best tanks in WW2 ? (give your opinion)
     
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    Hmm...
    Maybe this rather through-discussed topic should be under "Tanks in WW2".
     
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    At the end of WWII, which I suspect will be the timescale we will be dealing with, I´d say the Soviet Union made the best tanks in the world.

    Not because their tanks had the best guns, thickest armour or were the most reliable etc., but because Soviet tanks presented the most practical blend of firepower, armour and mobility.
     
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    And Soviet tanks suited SU's conditions the best.
     
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    In the long run the German taks were of better individual quality and therefore of worse economic/strategical value. The Russians, as Skua mentioned, managed to build tanks that served their needs and were at the same time producable by their industries in great numbers. The Germans failed at this by building tanks like the Panther.
     
  6. Christian Ankerstjerne

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    The Germans wouldn't have had any benefit from producing more tanks, even if they could, since they would not be capable of fielding more than they already did.

    By the time the German tanks were generally superior to the Soviet tanks, i.e. around medio/ultimo 1943, they German army as a whole was inferior to the Soviet one.

    Christian
     
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    ''but because Soviet tanks presented the most practical blend of firepower, armour and mobility.''

    And numbers...?
     
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    And numbers, which they could be produced in because they were relatively simple. I´ve read/heard Soviet tanks described as adequate. The Germans had more powerful guns and better sights and the Americans had better fire control systems and more reliability, but the Soviet tanks were, at the end of WWII at least, in every respect adequate. Even more than adequate in some respects.
     
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    uhh.. PanzerMeister, this is in the"Tanks in WW2" section , i hope you will pay closer attention to forums and posts in the future .
     
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    Maybe a moderator moved it here. Like, just maybe, it's perhaps a possibility that I did. ;)
     
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    german tanks post 1942 were generally better in my opinion than the russian tanks.

    is it me or do they seem more noble than the russains tanks which seem a bit sinister, probably because they often greatly outnumbered.

    so for me its german tanks 1 russian tanks 0
     
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    I think that this post was in Non-world war history. Because when I wrote that message, there was "Tanks in World War II Forum Index -> Non world war history in the upper left corner.
     
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    There is nothing noble about being outnumbered if you're not fighting for a worthy ideal, but I see what you mean... Still, in that case I really prefer the underdog tanks that fought the most but got the least of the honour, in other words the StuGIII units. Still, the Russian tanks were exactly what the Russians needed, and they looked good at that. ;)

    Panzermeister: the topic was in Non-WW2, I moved it here.
     
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    Thanks Roel, now I know I'm not hallucinating! :D
     
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    i think that often on the eastern front many german units were fighting for sheer survival and nothing else. that seems pretty worthy 2 me.
     
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    Individually the German tanks were better. Russian tanks were better suited for the good ol' "thundering herd" strategy that overwhelmed the German Wehrmacht.

    The Russians also like to build things that are adequate to the task at hand and the needs of the task. Nothing more, nothing less.
     

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