M36B1?

Split from "Pershing, JS2 and Tiger II"

Let us not forget the Jackson, M36 b..

A Sherman chassis and a 90 mm M3 gun..






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M36_Jackson

 

Whoaa, i'm suprised i've never seen that before, did it see any action? How did it perform?

 

There is no reason it would perform any differently than any other M36, which held its own against German armor quite well. No, this particular version never saw action.

 

M36B1
A M36 turret fitted onto a M4A3 Sherman chassis. Used in the Battle of the Bulge. Officially they did not participate, but there is both photographic evidence and first hand accounts of them being involved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M36_Jackson

The war continued on for months after the Ardennes...


But I have read otherwize...

 

This was the earlier version, which was a turret refit to the M-10 and there was an M10 factory built as an M36 with heavier armour.

 

http://efour4ever.com/44thdivision/nordwindgros.html


Which one is this?

This tank destroyer of the 776th stood guard in Gros Rederching. From this location a German vehicle was hit a little over 200 yards away

 

You can clearly see that above the suspension a part of the hull side slants outward after which the rest of the hull side slants inward. This is typical of the "regular" M10 and M36.

 

In all the books I have concerning the M36, I have not seen a single photo of a B1 in action anywhere. All data I have on the M36 states that the B1 was never used.

 

I dunno, but there is some dispute on the matter..

I can find 3 yes and 3 no web sites..at least

I have problems beliving any sources on a great deal of stuff.

 

http://www.100thww2.org/support/776combat.html

here is a nice piece on the subject of Jacksons

 

As soon as I see a picture of an M36B1 in anything that even looks like 'action' I’ll start paying these rumors some mind. It is hard to go by first-hand reports from soldiers because, as much as I respect those people, there were allot of tanks that could have looked vaguely similar.

 

http://www.battletanks.com/new_page_1.htm

this one talks about the M36B on the M4 chassis , but shows pictures on the M10 chassis..

lol

1943 USA Gun Motor Carriage M36 "Slugger"
Mounted on a M4A3 Sherman Chassis.
Armament: 1- 90mm gun in new turret
1- 0.5" MG AA
Engine; Ford GAA, V-8, gas, 500 hp
Speed: 30 mph
Range; 150 miles
Crew: 5
Weight: 31 tons

Entered service in Europe in late 1944. Proved very
successful in anti-tank role. Equipped with 90mm gun.

 

Unreliable? no, I dissagree.

Just because every allied plane was either a Lancaster or Spitfire and every german tank was a Tiger or Panther doesn't mean that they could not tell the difference between a Sherman, a Firefly, an M10 or M36!

I mean come on, it's not like they all look the same

FNG

 

I'll thank you not to barge in, generalize my post, and then proceed to cram words down my throat next time.

I have not seen any of these alleged first hand reports. But wouldn't it be possible to mistake the outline of, say, 17lb armed Sherman with an M36B1? Or, more likely, wouldn't it be possible to mistake any long barreled Sherman for an M36B1? I think it's generally accepted that tanks built on similar chassis are subject to misidentification for similar vehicles on the fly.

 

Thanks for splitting this off...

I am curious as you all know, this is 'Stonewall' Jacksons favoriite AFV.

 

Huh?

I was being sarcastic

FNG

 

A few smileys might have helped, I thought you were being serious to... :lol:

 

I gather the muzzle brake is a late model addition.




This M36 was created on a late-production M10A1 3" GMC hull, since the auxiliary armor bosses have been omitted from the rear hull. The large 90mm gun and muzzle brake are imposing, and indicate the power of these tank destroyers. The large turret bustle/ready rack is visible from this view, as is the .50cal machine gun mount rising from the open-topped turret. The semi-circular gun shield helps differentiate this vehicle from the M10, as the M10's gun shield was more pyramidal. Track grousers are stowed on the hull sides of this vehicle. (Picture courtesy Armor Foto.)

 

The M36B1 saw action during WW2, roughly from March 1945 in several TD Battalions alongside 'regular' M36s.
Steve Zaloga built one in 1/35th scale and provided 5-6 combat photos in his Military Modelling (British magazine) article several years ago.
HTH

link to the kit http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/usa/szm36.htm

 

I don't suppose theres any way you can track down this article and show us? 'Cause a picture of a plastic model doesn't really tell me much.